Rudder wind problem persists

[Gladman]

Downloaded the new update this afternoon and had the same issues on takeoff as before. I'm thinking my right rudder pedal was 75% usage for takeoff in the mission that came with the module.

 

1.5 works flawlessly, windows config shows no out of center at all.

Saitek combat pedals were used.

 

Gladman

[Phantom453]

Agreed.

[Koriel]

Downloaded the new update this afternoon and had the same issues on takeoff as before. I'm thinking my right rudder pedal was 75% usage for takeoff in the mission that came with the module.

 

1.5 works flawlessly, windows config shows no out of center at all.

Saitek combat pedals were used.

 

Gladman

I have the Saitek rudder pedals pro, and I can slam the throttle on the runway and the plane goes nearly straight... That part of the patch worked perfectly.

 

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[Gladman]

Apparently not for everybody.

[Deezle]

Crosswind definitely still makes takeoff very dicey.

[Fab]

Try make a test with cross wind, its chilling...

 

Rember to aligne your nosewheel, before take off, and turn NWS off !

[TomCatMucDe]

you arent supposed to turn NWS off before starting rolling.

[gospadin]

That, and it turns itself off automatically once you're going too fast either way.

[ckelly14]

I agree there is a big difference with this update. Feels that the rudder input is overly sensitive or that the wind is now correctly modeled. I turned down my rudder sensitivity and that seemed to work better but the plane is a bear to control...

[philippe.gleize1]

For information, delta aircrafts are not sensitive to cross wind. Minimal rudder should be needed to maintain centerline

[ckelly14]

I really like the Nevada map but I went back to 1.5 to fly this plane. I agree that wind cannot account for the funky action on the runway. Also having difficulty with the TCD now, not to mention suddenly losing speed and crashing while dogfighting. Not sure if this is more realistic, but I'm enjoying myself in 1.5 so I figure why push it.

 

May consider flying the A-10C in Nevada until an integrated 2.0 come around or this bird has been updated.

[jjohnson241]

Downloaded the new update this afternoon and had the same issues on takeoff as before. I'm thinking my right rudder pedal was 75% usage for takeoff in the mission that came with the module.

 

1.5 works flawlessly, windows config shows no out of center at all.

Saitek combat pedals were used.

 

Gladman

Ditto this post.

I have no problem with control on take off in 1.5. Plane tracks in middle of runway throughout take-off roll.

I'm not an ME guy but has anyone verified that the problem with the Nevada take off is in fact a cross wind? Looks to me that the wind in Nevada is only 4 knots. ???

[Deezle]

I'm not an ME guy but has anyone verified that the problem with the Nevada take off is in fact a cross wind? Looks to me that the wind in Nevada is only 4 knots. ???

4m/s, which is 8 knots. Turned off the wind and it tracks perfectly down the runway.

[Gladman]

Note that I also used the registry repair for Saitek pedals as well as removing and reconfigure in the dcs control panel.

[OnlyforDCS]

you arent supposed to turn NWS off before starting rolling.

 

Maybe not, but currently it's the only way to make some sort of controlled take off in crosswind conditions. (In Nevada)

[ckelly14]

1.5 version works great- it hasn't been updated.

 

Personally, I feel that it's more than just the wind on 2.0. The wind does nudge the aircraft more than in 1.5, but it just seems like the rudder controls will not correct for it, and when it does, it over corrects. Perhaps you are on to something with the peripheral controls. I am using Saitek X-52.

[jjohnson241]

4m/s, which is 8 knots. Turned off the wind and it tracks perfectly down the runway.

8 Knots is nothing, certainly not strong enough to require the degree of rudder correction during take-off roll.

I've submitted a Trouble Ticket (http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=158997). I think the affect of such a low cross wind is over modeled and the sensitivity of the rudder response needs attention. As this is a Beta, hopefully they'll get it straightened out.

 

Edit: Per the Manual, Nosewheel Steering should be disengaged after lining up for take-off. I tried without NWS and could control the plane better but still suffered drift to the left (affect of cross wind). Trying to correct that drift using right rudder input is an adventure to say the least. I believe that plane is far too sensitive to low cross winds and the reaction to rudder inputs is far too severe.

Edited January 19, 2016 by jjohnson241

[Dingo_Bob]

Noticed this too,

found that if the nose wheel is on the ground (under aircraft weight) it is fairly hard to get the rudder to correct direction, sort of like it's glued to the ground,

 

apply a little back pressure on the stick to pick up some of the weight off the nose once you've got a bit of speed and the rudder is a lot more responsive.

[jjohnson241]

Noticed this too,

found that if the nose wheel is on the ground (under aircraft weight) it is fairly hard to get the rudder to correct direction, sort of like it's glued to the ground,

 

apply a little back pressure on the stick to pick up some of the weight off the nose once you've got a bit of speed and the rudder is a lot more responsive.

 

Will give that a try.

Thanks

[gospadin]

with NWS on, theoretically, the plane should track almost perfectly straight in an 8kt crosswind.

 

the friction of the tires should prevent it from sliding or turning if you hold the front wheel in place.

 

I almost feel like we're landing on ice, the way it seems to track sometimes

[rrohde]

I almost feel like we're landing on ice, the way it seems to track sometimes

 

+1

[GoR-07Vlad]

 

I almost feel like we're landing on ice, the way it seems to track sometimes

 

+1

[cauldron]

8 Knots is nothing, certainly not strong enough to require the degree of rudder correction during take-off roll.

I've submitted a Trouble Ticket (http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=158997). I think the affect of such a low cross wind is over modeled and the sensitivity of the rudder response needs attention. As this is a Beta, hopefully they'll get it straightened out.

 

Edit: Per the Manual, Nosewheel Steering should be disengaged after lining up for take-off. I tried without NWS and could control the plane better but still suffered drift to the left (affect of cross wind). Trying to correct that drift using right rudder input is an adventure to say the least. I believe that plane is far too sensitive to low cross winds and the reaction to rudder inputs is far too severe.

 

I am sorry, look it up anywhere - and you'll come to realize this - but i can assure you that 8knots of crosswind is NOT nothing. remember that giant big rudder will weather vain into the wind all along the wind will tug you off the other side if you don't correct. I can bet much more than 8 kts the plane may need to go wing low as well as crab to land. and in real life crosswinds always come with mechanical turbulence, so i'd count myself lucky to have 'sim' style crosswinds.

[Nealius]

So....anyone figured out why it's veering to the left on takeoff even in zero-wind conditions?

 

Also Tibilisi-Lochini has been annoying me lately with constant directions to land with a tailwind :joystick:

[Deezle]

So....anyone figured out why it's veering to the left on takeoff even in zero-wind conditions?

I've not experienced this. It goes perfectly straight with no wind.