suhast Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 The shaft has 6mm diameter, the housing of the pot has roughly 16mm diameter. thanks could you also tell me the dimensions of the microstick stick width and length with a caliper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 well that was a sinch, so much more grip and controlability with the canted DMS knob Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lausbub78 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 thanks could you also tell me the dimensions of the microstick stick width and length with a caliper? Do you mean the shaft of the microstick? It is 2mm x 1.2mm it sticks out around 7mm. The pcb where the whole thing sits on is 28mm x 25mm and the housing is around 20mm x 20mm and 12mm tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Just waiting in the Gardena nut buy ready to solder all the switches. Just need a closer pic of where on the switches you wired to and should be G2G on plugging it in to test the buttons. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Just follow this scheme: I am not sure if you know this but I'll explain just in case. There are 2 contacts on 4 legged switch. I connected legs with green lines, those are same contact. You can solder left or right doesn't matter. I don't have new photos but I hope this will be understandable. I first soldered buttons and trigger. There is bare wire already soldered. It is common ground wire connecting 4 switches, like green wire on diagram above. Red wires connect according to their names to first image. S4 is in yellow triangle I am not sure which contact. If you make mistake it doesn't matter, other one is S1. Next POV switch: Look at U shaped bare wire on the switch. It is also common GND connection. I soldered black wire and connected it according the first image. On the outer edge are switch contacts. Just solder like I did. Please use multi-meter if you are not sure which contact is what. Save Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just follow this scheme: I am not sure if you know this but I'll explain just in case. There are 2 contacts on 4 legged switch. I connected legs with green lines, those are same contact. You can solder left or right doesn't matter. I don't have new photos but I hope this will be understandable. I first soldered buttons and trigger. There is bare wire already soldered. It is common ground wire connecting 4 switches, like green wire on diagram above. Red wires connect according to their names to first image. S4 is in yellow triangle I am not sure which contact. If you make mistake it doesn't matter, other one is S1. Next POV switch: Look at U shaped bare wire on the switch. It is also common GND connection. I soldered black wire and connected it according the first image. On the outer edge are switch contacts. Just solder like I did. Please use multi-meter if you are not sure which contact is what. Save Thank you very much for this. Exactly what I needed. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suhast Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Pictures of the 3D switches on my cougar. Antenna Plastic painted. I have push it all the way and seems a little out is that fine? Cursor New style aluminum DMS castle plastic Tailpiece black steel 15 degree offset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Do you have issues with tailpiece? Any unwanted movement? - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thadiun Okona Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Do you have issues with tailpiece? Any unwanted movement? Sorry I didn't get back to you on this, but I figured out where the issue is on mine. The shaft on the printed parts (polished white sls nylon) is 15.8mm but The shaft on TM grips is actually 16. There are a few other spots that need adjustment as well and I made a scan of TM parts next to yours so you can compare the slight differences in socket proportions. http://i.imgur.com/Qg2TYXP.jpg Was going to make a simple drawing to dimension the other bits and of course I can put calipers on any parts you want. Been trying to get my molds finished.. making progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suhast Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Do you have issues with tailpiece? Any unwanted movement? When flying no but if I push and pull the han del ahead and forward theres. A slight play but maybe it was there bedore with the stock tail I al not sure. The antena seems toó backed out no? What is the exact color forma the grey buttons on the throtthle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwell Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Debolestis Shapeways shop Hey, now that you mention it. If you overtight the tailpiece against the body if the stick when installing with the screw that is inside, the piece begins to open. That is natural, but it makes me think that maybe instead of a C to hold the screew an O is necessary. I don't know if it is room for it but I think so. This is important if an FCC or FSSB is going to be used, due to the amount of force needed. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suhast Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hey, now that you mention it. If you overtight the tailpiece against the body if the stick when installing with the screw that is inside, the piece begins to open. That is natural, but it makes me think that maybe instead of a C to hold the screew an O is necessary. I don't know if it is room for it but I think so. This is important if an FCC or FSSB is going to be used, due to the amount of force needed. Cheers I have checked and the play was indeed inside of the stick. I tightened the lower bolts and now there is zero play/ I will keep an eye on it to see it opens. Mine is stainless steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwell Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Debolestis Shapeways shop No, in minr it has no play at all! :) but when I installed it that screw holder began to open. I think an O shaped one would be better. I'm glad at least that solved your problem. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Hello everybody, sorry that I wasn't active lately, it is flu season here and I've got a bad one. Thank you for you feedback, please post all your issues, that is the only way for me to fix them. I have a lot of work to do, but fortunately my vacation just started and I'll have some time to work on my projects. Antenna Plastic painted. I have push it all the way and seems a little out is that fine? Cursor New style aluminum DMS castle plastic Tailpiece black steel 15 degree offset What is the exact color forma the grey buttons on the throtthle? I just saw that you printed aluminum cursor knob, can you make a close up photo or two? Antenna knob must be like that because of its shape. I wanted it to look same as original. Only way to fix this is to make potentiometer shaft shorter. This is right color: Sorry I didn't get back to you on this, but I figured out where the issue is on mine. The shaft on the printed parts (polished white sls nylon) is 15.8mm but The shaft on TM grips is actually 16. There are a few other spots that need adjustment as well and I made a scan of TM parts next to yours so you can compare the slight differences in socket proportions. http://i.imgur.com/Qg2TYXP.jpg Was going to make a simple drawing to dimension the other bits and of course I can put calipers on any parts you want. Been trying to get my molds finished.. making progress. Thank you Thadiun Okona, you are very helpful. I just checked and all my shafts are 16mm. I don't know why your is 15.8. Maybe because it is polished, I don't know. I opened my warthog few days ago and remeasured everything, only thing that was different was this: Painted part was 0,5mm lower. I'll change that, maybe that will help with center play. I also got comment that TM shaft is oval in shape. It is not. I think there are some production tolerances on stick that are causing that some people have center play and some don't. Hey, now that you mention it. If you overtight the tailpiece against the body if the stick when installing with the screw that is inside, the piece begins to open. That is natural, but it makes me think that maybe instead of a C to hold the screew an O is necessary. I don't know if it is room for it but I think so. This is important if an FCC or FSSB is going to be used, due to the amount of force needed. Cheers O shape is not possible because there are two notches inside grip that would prevent O shape to fit properly. Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeCa_Chuck Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Painted part was 0,5mm lower. I'll change that, maybe that will help with center play. I also got comment that TM shaft is oval in shape. It is not. I think there are some production tolerances on stick that are causing that some people have center play and some don't. Hi, debolestis. I'm sorry about the flu you've got. Get well soon, mate! And also thank you for remeasurement. According to your post, I understand that you couldn't confirm my center play issue which I pointed in the comment on Shapeways tailpiece page. However, actually, I have that issue with Warthog and FSSB R3. And I confirmed that it can be fixed with hot glue. Which means the problem is comes from the diameter of its cylinder, as I already mentioned in the comment. If you have time for it, I hope you'll test the tailpiece to confirm that issue in exact same way as I did. I did: 1) Disassemble the stick. 2) Loose the screw at C shaped point. (It's for simulating the usage of FSSB/FCC, because when we use it, we apply strong force to stick) 3) Pinch the tailpiece at bottom part, and slowly shake it laterally. 4) You'll see the play. Edited February 3, 2017 by PeCa_Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suhast Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Hello everybody, sorry that I wasn't active lately, it is flu season here and I've got a bad one. Thank you for you feedback, please post all your issues, that is the only way for me to fix them. I have a lot of work to do, but fortunately my vacation just started and I'll have some time to work on my projects. I just saw that you printed aluminum cursor knob, can you make a close up photo or two? Antenna knob must be like that because of its shape. I wanted it to look same as original. Only way to fix this is to make potentiometer shaft shorter. This is right color: Thank you Thadiun Okona, you are very helpful. I just checked and all my shafts are 16mm. I don't know why your is 15.8. Maybe because it is polished, I don't know. I opened my warthog few days ago and remeasured everything, only thing that was different was this: Painted part was 0,5mm lower. I'll change that, maybe that will help with center play. I also got comment that TM shaft is oval in shape. It is not. I think there are some production tolerances on stick that are causing that some people have center play and some don't. O shape is not possible because there are two notches inside grip that would prevent O shape to fit properly. I have shortened the shaft of the antenna and polished the aluminum cursor. About the tail wobbling I have experienced again a little play but after disassembling the stick and making the ground cable screw tight and also the external screws tight it now does not have any play at all. Edited February 3, 2017 by suhast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) I had one problem with my Cougar gimbal, this part broke: That was flaw in design, force was there the strongest and after few months of use it broke. Than I redesigned all parts and fixed a few issues. Updated list of materials can be found HERE. Most of changes are minor except this part. On the left is old broken part and on the right is a new one. You can see that it is much stronger now. Sensors are now mounted in different way, before on M3 screws like on the left part, now everything is printed. I designed this version for GVL224 sensors, and for MFG sensors. Probably others will fit. I use new magnets now. I bought magnets from GVL224, but they can be also ordered from HERE. I used cable ties with magnets for easier calibration. After installation magnets must be oriented properly and with cable ties it is easier to do it with fingers. I removed nyloc nuts and I now use regular M6 steel magnetic nut. All other screws and nuts are made from stainless steel which is not magnetic. Now magnet sticks on M6 nut like in photo below. It should look like this: Then add magnet and sensor. It is the same for other sensor: I'll design a new shield PCB for Pro micro, one that can be installed in Cougar enclosure. I have original Cougar PCB that unfortunately doesn't work. It fits normally in enclosure with my gimbal. GVL224 sensors will work with original PCB. I think I am now finished with gimbal. I need to start working on other projects. If you have any good idea please let me know.Save Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) And now if you can make your own enclosure with this template: I am not sure but it looks like this gimbal can be fitted into F22 enclosure as well. Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Good job on gimbal "MK. II". :) BTW - See this PRO micro assembly in F22PRO base. Gimbal is VKB "tic" inherited from Black Mamba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 It looks like it could fit, maybe someone can compare it to the template. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Use code FORMOM at checkout until Sunday April 23, 2017 and get 15% off on all cast metals. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 I need some feedback. Did anybody used 13deg angled tailpiece with an extension on Warthog? A photo would be much apreciated. Thank you! - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSally Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Use code FORMOM at checkout until Sunday April 23, 2017 and get 15% off on all cast metals. Hmmm, should have read this prior to ordering. Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Maybe you can cancel the order and try again. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSally Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Maybe you can cancel the order and try again. All good, happy to pay for a quality product. Edited April 22, 2017 by MustangSally Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 I need help with speed brake / dogfight switch on Cougar throttle. I was requested to make a housing for it. I don't have Cougar but I have older TQS, I thought parts would be identical but they were not. Only photo I have is from Flyfoxy's warranty list, but it is very small. There are photos of aftermarket aluminum parts: I need help with measurements. Thank you! - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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