halfcard Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Hi, I've been running several other modules fine but today I installed the Mirage and it's killing my FPS. Oddly when in paused mode, the movement is smooth. I use FaceTrackNoIR for all modules so I can move my head in paused mode and its fine. But as soon I unpause... bam, the FPS drops to around 1 frame per second and renders it unusable. Not sure if this is common as I can't find anything similar posted here.:(
nomdeplume Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Not common, but someone else has reported the same thing. Check out this thread: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=164504 I think it would probably be helpful for the developers to track down what's happening if they can get more information about the systems it's happening. So if it looks like the same problem you're having, could you post your system configuration, and results from any tests you're able to do.
halfcard Posted April 19, 2016 Author Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Duplicate issue Ok, thanks... I'll post to the original thread and send a video and stats too. Divadov - I'll attach FaceTrackNoIR profile shortly. It did take me a while to set up to something that was working. Edited April 19, 2016 by halfcard
halfcard Posted April 19, 2016 Author Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) FaceTrackNoIR Profile Here you go:thumbup:halfcardsFTNoIR.zip Edited April 20, 2016 by halfcard
halfcard Posted April 20, 2016 Author Posted April 20, 2016 No problem. There's still no fix for this issue. I've posted a video[ame=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNpA-J0orMQ][/ame]
droopy114 Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 Not easy to see in your video, but is your mirror activated? even with my rig (I5 4690K OC@ 4.3Ghz/16 GB RAM @ 2133Mhz/ GTX 970), i have a huge FPS drop (going from 80/90 to 30/40). Not sure if this is the culprit, but worth the try.
ac5 Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Same problem here. After 2.02 update the Mirage stutters over Las Vegas dusk, down to 12 FPS , on 2.01 was 50 + Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel 12-Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 MHz Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Monitor ASUS - Oled PG42UQ 41.5" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 4 TB Windows 11 Home - 64 CH Products Combatstick, Throttle and Pedals
halfcard Posted April 27, 2016 Author Posted April 27, 2016 Someone suggested reinstalling DCS but it is a fresh install already.
halfcard Posted April 27, 2016 Author Posted April 27, 2016 I've tried re-installing again just to see if it made a difference and there's no change. I wonder whether the Mirage has been optimized at all. I've noticed that even in pause I only get 15-16 FPS.
Azrayen Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I have no issue so it's not about general optimization (which is fine) but probably related to something specific on your computer. Now the "game" begins: what specificity and why does it make trouble?
myHelljumper Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I too have some FPS problems but they are not that big. Compared when I am in a A-10 I loose about half my FPS, that downs me to 15-25. My conclusion was that I have a AMD graphic card that doesn't handle DCS very well. Specs : HD 7950, I5 2500K @ 3.30. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
ac5 Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Same problem here. With 2.01 it was OK (40+ FPS over las Vegas dusk) Now (2.02) (12 FPS over las Vegas dusk). But slowly but steadily we all know now that 2.01 was much better than 2.02 right? Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel 12-Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 MHz Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Monitor ASUS - Oled PG42UQ 41.5" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 4 TB Windows 11 Home - 64 CH Products Combatstick, Throttle and Pedals
myHelljumper Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 My problems have been there as soon as the mirage has gone out and i'm on 1.5 ;-) Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
Azrayen Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 halfcard, myHelljumper, ac5: I suggest you compare your hardware and/or resident software (OS, security softwares...) to see if you can find a "lead" to where the problem comes from. It's a long shot but maybe it will help to understand the issue, and that's the first thing to have for a developper to be able to fix it. myHelljumper, I have the same CPU as you, and no problem. So no need to look into it. My graphic card is a nVidia, can't tell about yours.
OldE24 Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 i used to have 6950's in crossfire, you dont mention HOW MUCH RAM YOU HAVE? Also should check your power settings and get a cooler and overclock the CPU if possible on your seatup. i'm willing to bet this comes down to 8GB ram and a HDD. 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
Azrayen Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I still have (only) 8GB RAM and a HDD (7200rpm, not a super-fast one). No problem in 1.5, some freezes from time to time (e.g. loading textures from disc). I plan to upgrade to 16GB, a SSD and a GTX970(+) from my current GTX760, but that's "for 2.0" more than for 1.5 or the M-2000.
OldE24 Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I still have (only) 8GB RAM and a HDD (7200rpm, not a super-fast one). No problem in 1.5, some freezes from time to time (e.g. loading textures from disc). I plan to upgrade to 16GB, a SSD and a GTX970(+) from my current GTX760, but that's "for 2.0" more than for 1.5 or the M-2000. i bet you do, better question is OP playing 1.5.3 stable or 2.0.2 alpha, as the alpha with all they did on this last update seems to be hit or miss with issues. 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
ac5 Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 The hardware and software are the same. The change is 2.01 to 2.02. There lies the problem. Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel 12-Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 MHz Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Monitor ASUS - Oled PG42UQ 41.5" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 4 TB Windows 11 Home - 64 CH Products Combatstick, Throttle and Pedals
myHelljumper Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 I have 8GB ram and a bad HDD but I strongly think that it is a AMD related issue Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
Maulkin Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 You will notice at the beginning of the video when the sim is paused your mirrors are not activated and you have good frame rate. When you unpause the mirrors start "mirroring" and the frame rate goes bad. Try disabling mirrors as someone earlier suggested. --Maulkin Windows 10 64-bit - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7 GHz - 32 GB DDR4 3600MHz RAM - EVGA FTW3 RTX 3080 - Asus Crosshair VIII Hero motherboard - Samsung EVO Pro 1 TB SSD - TrackIR 4 Pro - Thrustmaster Warthog - Saitek rudder pedals - Lilliput UM-80/C with TM Cougars
halfcard Posted April 29, 2016 Author Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) i bet you do, better question is OP playing 1.5.3 stable or 2.0.2 alpha, as the alpha with all they did on this last update seems to be hit or miss with issues. I'm running 1.5.3 with a Core i7, SSD and AMD Radeon HD 5770 (1GB) but I also have 6GB triple channel RAM which may be the kicker. I've also clean booted win10 (i e. No additional process such as AV) before trying. I've tried with Mirrors on and off and it makes no difference. I ran a test with System Monitor and as soon as I unpause the GPU utilization use drops from 99% to 0%. Something's getting stuck or there's a memory allocation error on my AMD. Edited April 29, 2016 by halfcard
Rlaxoxo Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 I'm running 1.5.3 with a Core i7, SSD and AMD Radeon HD 5770 (1GB) but I also have 6GB triple channel RAM which may be the kicker. I've also clean booted win10 (i e. No additional process such as AV) before trying. I've tried with Mirrors on and off and it makes no difference. I ran a test with System Monitor and as soon as I unpause the GPU utilization use drops from 99% to 0%. Something's getting stuck or there's a memory allocation error on my AMD. I'm not saying this will help but 6 gigs is to low for DCS I suggest 10 minimum [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Maulkin Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Have you tried setting the video config to the lowest on all setting to see what happens? If, on all low settings, you still get this at least you know it something unrelated to video DirectX API. If it is not doing that bug then start increasing one setting at a time to see what setting might be causing it. It might help narrow it down. --Maulkin Windows 10 64-bit - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7 GHz - 32 GB DDR4 3600MHz RAM - EVGA FTW3 RTX 3080 - Asus Crosshair VIII Hero motherboard - Samsung EVO Pro 1 TB SSD - TrackIR 4 Pro - Thrustmaster Warthog - Saitek rudder pedals - Lilliput UM-80/C with TM Cougars
myHelljumper Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 So just for you guys to know, I have no frame rate issue at all when i'm flying on NTTR, solid 35 FPS @ 100 ft over the strip. Have to be linked with 1.5 or the Caucasus map, at least for my problem. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
halfcard Posted October 28, 2016 Author Posted October 28, 2016 A very late update from the OP but after I upgraded to 18Gb RAM the problem persisted. I purchased NTTR too and it runs like a dream in that. So clearly something related to the way Mirage integrates with 1.5 as myHellJumper said.
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