solidGad Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 definitely takes some practice. i still struggle with it. mainly when slowing down, i all of a sudden shift into backwards flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 definitely takes some practice. i still struggle with it. mainly when slowing down, i all of a sudden shift into backwards flight. Agree, I have also put many hours into trying and haven't managed it yet... I'm relying on the 'Controls Indicator' (mini-hud) to let me know when auto-hover is engaged and will throw a party when/if it ever happens :cheer3nc: i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birko Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I've got a curve of 20 I think on the cyclic roll and pitch axis, and use the doppler lines on the artificial horizon. It used to take me many frustrating minutes to get into an auto hover but with good curves and practice now it takes seconds. It might help anyone who's struggling, to try practicing getting into an auto hover near the ground where you can use the terrain and objects as a reference- especially helpful when you can see your own shadow too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 @Birko What HOTAS are you using? i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birko Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) A Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X I got cheap from Maplin's when they used to be a thing I'd be interested if some of us could compare tracks of us going into auto-hover, I did a quick demonstration it's not a marvel but it's 10,000% better than I used to do it lolAuto hover.trk Edited January 10, 2020 by Birko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 @Birko Thanks for clarifying - just wondered if you had the same stick as me.. (Warthog)... no probs ... will experiment with curves as you suggest i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birko Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 No problem, it might also be worth getting a stick extension or reducing the saturation Y of your cyclic axis' so you can make more precise movements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 @Birko Yes, thanks, I think you're on the money and will experiment further. Without making any changes, I managed to get it to hover once last night! I was looking for the words to appear in the controls indicator - HOVER and COLL (as seen in video's I've watched on YouTube) but I only saw a white dot in the centre where the horizontal and vertical lines cross. I was able to temporarily engage the collective and control ascent and descent .... It occurred to me that maybe a 'reposition' mod I'm using had moved the square but not the writing (although I think they're all one thing)... Anyway, I removed the mod and tried to get into a hover again to see if the words appeared, got close several times but not quite in hover state... aahhhhhhhhhhh! i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 ... adding this 'hover' demo for future reference (7:45 / 15:59) i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidGad Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 ... adding this 'hover' demo for future reference (7:45 / 15:59) thanks for the vid. he made it look so easy. I have been pretty much just flying the L so I don't have to use autohover, but will jump in the M tonight and try again. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) I don't think it matters which version you try... the auto-hover technique should remain the same - but you need to be able to master it for the M if you want to fire the HOT3. Well, that is my understanding but correct me if I am wrong. Some earlier video's on Youtube show the HOT3 being fired without being in a hover state but I am led to believe this is a pre-requisite now. I have managed to get the L into hover a couple of times now but it's still quite a challenge Edited January 13, 2020 by slicker55 i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidGad Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 a successful evening. managed to get the M into auto hover on two missions. many T-55 were blown up. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 @solidGad same here... a bit better last night... auto-hover twice - think it is just a case of practice... I also fixed the words 'HOVER' and 'COLL' which appear in the 'Controls Indicator' ... I had previously moved the square to a different place on my monitor but the co-ordinates of the words are contained in a different lua i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birko Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I think you can fire a HOT3 without being in autohover. You just can't slave without it so you have to keep your targets pretty much head-on to you manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 @Birko ... that's good news - I must have been misinformed - maybe confused - will try it out :) i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidGad Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 This time I ignored the ADI and just kept an eye on ground speed and vertical speed. Lots of collective adjustments as I kept the vertical speed around zero while slowing down. I think I was chasing the DOP lines on the ADI. Ignoring it completely seemed to work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 @solidGad ... interesting, will try anything! I don't know if you're aware but if you set the NADIR to VS DER, your ground speed is shown on the top line of the display and this is quite useful i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidGad Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 yes. thank you. VS works well. very handy. was able to get it again tonight on a mission pretty quickly. same as before focus on speed. vertical speed and ground speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 @solidGad ... a challenge (for sure)... a few hours last night - got soooo close a few times but not the full monty :( Which other things have you got switched on? Thinking of auto-pilot and mode, magnetic brake? ... determined to beat it! i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidGad Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 i seem to have it down pretty good now. i have everything switched on that i normally would. nothing off anyways. i pretty much ignore everything but the vertical speed. last night as i was closing to within range of the tanks i was hunting, i put it into autohover on the first try. just keep the vertical speed at or around zero when you are slowing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicker55 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 okey dokey... will do :thumbup: i7-5820K 3.30Ghz | Asus X99-S | Sapphire R290X | R7 240 | 16GB DDR4 PC4 2800MHz | Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (OS) | Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD (DCS) | Noctua NH-D14 2011 Cooler | OCZ ZT 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular PSU | NZXT Phantom Enthusiast | 3 x IIyama Prolite E2473HDS 24" | 1 x Dell S2240T 21.5" Touch Screen | Windows 10 64-Bit | AMD Eyefinity 5760 x 1080 | TrackIR5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind 1771 | Vaicom Pro + VA (Licensed) | Sennheiser Game Zero | Honeycomb Yoke (June 2020)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunwukong Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Anybody having issues with auto-hover in M-variant? Can’t get it in m but can in L and Mistral. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunwukong Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Scratch that....autopilot switch not set to on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I have no problem to engage the auto hover but last night in a Caucasia Training ground server with the M version was imposible, almost 5 km/h ground speed, almost 0 vs and with the chopper stabilized and the auto hover didn’t work, auto pilot on, giro on too but nothing happened. I landed the chopper, turn off all the system and all on again including the turbine but nothing again. Any suggestions? Dream Commodore 64C, 1530 datasette, 1541 floppy disk drive, DCS cartridge, competition pro joystick, 14” Tv with VCR. Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunwukong Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Auto Hover and auto collecting not working for me What DCS version? Did you manual start or auto start? If manual start, try auto start....does it work ok if you auto start? Are your 3 autopilot axis switches all up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 19, 2020 by sunwukong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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