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If there's a vote, I vote for the C.

Not interested in minor versions.

 

the E is not minor.

 

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Quick question. Not being snotty or anything, but apart from the angolan war, did the e ever see combat anywhere in the world?

 

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Mirage III EA with Argentina vs Great Britain during Falklands/ Malvinas war.

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Ok, this titillates my interest. :)

 

And this ?

 

Mirage IIIE with Martel anti-radar missile, Barrax jamming pod (probably Phimat chaff pod on the other wing) and 2 x 1300L fuel tanks

 

Mirage3E_1988_3-JD.jpg

 

Fun loadout, fuel + rocket pod

Mirage3E_1972_2-EH_mc.jpg

 

Rocket booster:

Mirage3E_1980_2-fusee.jpg


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Quick question. Not being snotty or anything, but apart from the angolan war, did the e ever see combat anywhere in the world?

 

Did the Viggen see combat anywhere ( Let alone get any export sales)? No. i dont think that is a reason to preclude an aircraft or a specific varation into DCS. its just the E is more capable as well as versatile, with its A2G radar, and more munition types compared to the C.

 

direct combat usage aside If we count the export variations for specif nations of the MIIIE than yeah it too has seen widespread service.

 

 

I think those arguments will fall flat.

 

i see what you did there :D


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Did the Viggen see combat anywhere ( Let alone get any export sales)? No. i dont think that is a reason to preclude an aircraft or a specific varation into DCS. its just the E is more capable as well as versatile, with its A2G radar, and more munition types compared to the C.

 

direct combat usage aside If we count the export variations for specif nations of the MIIIE than yeah it too has seen widespread service.

 

 

 

 

i see what you did there :D

 

And butthurt... engage.

I simply asked given we used them and later converted our e's in to cheetah.

I was not excluding anything. So. If you are done trollling...

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And butthurt... engage.

I simply asked given we used them and later converted our e's in to cheetah.

I was not excluding anything. So. If you are done trollling...

 

yes i responded to give my 2 cents on the relevance of the 3E, and to answer the question. Apparently because you aren't satisfied with my answer that of course turns me into a troll somehow :doh:

 

Others like Jojo gave thier answers too no need to get overly sensitive against mine.


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If there's a vote, I vote for the C.

Not interested in minor versions.

 

The E definetly isn't a minor version, it was more produced than the C and was the main variant in France as well as many foreign costumers.


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And this ?

 

Mirage IIIE with Martel anti-radar missile, Barrax jamming pod (probably Phimat chaff pod on the other wing) and 2 x 1300L fuel tanks

 

Mirage3E_1988_3-JD.jpg

 

Fun loadout, fuel + rocket pod

Mirage3E_1972_2-EH_mc.jpg

 

Rocket booster:

Mirage3E_1980_2-fusee.jpg

 

You had my curiosity, now you have my attention! :D

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The E definetly isn't a minor version, it was more produced than the C and was the main variant in France as well as many foreign costumers.

 

I was talking of the Israelis C versions, not the E.

 

I would so prefer a standard French C, than a "minor version" C.

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I was talking of the Israelis C versions, not the E.

 

I would so prefer a standard French C, than a "minor version" C.

Same here.

 

Always prefer to have the Standard variant of the nation that designed it and used it the most then one of the export variants.

 

So i would also prefer the Mirage IIIC over an export CJ

(or any other Export IIIC variant)

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Same here.

 

Always prefer to have the Standard variant of the nation that designed it and used it the most then one of the export variants.

 

So i would also prefer the Mirage IIIC over an export CJ

(or any other Export IIIC variant)

 

Same here, plus France always downgrade export equipment.

 

Both would be best :).

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Same here, plus France always downgrade export equipment.

 

Not really :music_whistling:

 

France never had Mirage F1 as advanced as Iraqi Mirage F1 EQ6 standard.

Mirage 2000-9 is the most advanced one.

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For the record, the - CJ was NOT downgraded. In fact it was operationally upgraded from a pure high altitude interceptor into a multi functional fighter. It retained the original radar the French used, but only discarded the rocket pack. The late '50s and early' 60s cannot be compared to today's standards of customers getting downgraded material due to political issues.

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Same here, plus France always downgrade export equipment.

 

Both would be best :).

 

Yeah no,Dassault actually added 2 additional hardpoint for the israeli version to feat the tactical figher conception they had of the fighter they wanted to buy (by oppostion to the strategical interceptor conception the armée de l'air had of the fighter)

 

Essentially hardpoints went from 3 to 5

 

Also, the best verison of the M2000 and Mirage F1 are export versions (respectively the M2000-9 and the Mirage F1 astrac upgrade)

 

In regards to the rocket pack, it wasn't even a downgrade, the israeli weren't interrested in it in the first place, they asked for it to be replaced by extra fuel.


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