What is there still to be done for the Mig-21?

[Jaktaz]

I was wondering what Leatherneck still had on their plate for completing the Mig-21 module. Recently I've heard that the ASP sight is still a work in progress, and I've seen Leatherneck release a number of updates, one being a radar fix and another revising the lighting in the cockpit. I'm curious what fixes/adjustments Mig-21 still requires before it is 100%. I'm not talking about additional content, such as campaigns, but any knowledge on those would be nice.

[Harle]

ASP air to ground cannon aiming inaccuracy is certainly one of those bugs to be fixed

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5jZosfrqK4[/ame]

本帖最后于2016年6月21日，由Harle编辑

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

I think there's the lights and some minor bugs still left but generally it's 99% done. Also I remember that dropping the BL755 cluster munitions and them impacting would cause a crash to nut I'll go check that just to make sure.

 

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本帖最后于2016年6月21日，由RAZBAM_ELMO编辑

[QuiGon]

I think there's the lights and some minor bugs still left but generally it's 99% done. Also I remember that dropping the BL55 cluster munitions and them impacting would cause a crash to nut I'll go check that just to make sure.

 

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Lights have been implemented recently but are still waiting to be released with the next update afaik.

 

see here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=166911

[mattebubben]

ASP air to ground cannon aiming inaccuracy is certainly one of those bugs to be fixed

https://youtu.be/I5jZosfrqK4

 

 

Well are you sure that is a bug?

 

Is the ASP supposed to have Calculated Impact points for the cannon in the Air-ground mode (as its a pretty early system im leaning towards a probable no)

 

It might be one of those early sights where you manually have to adjust the sight deflection depending on speed ,range and dive angle.

本帖最后于2016年6月21日，由mattebubben编辑

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Yeah I was just referring what is in the release version.

 

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[Wings_Of_Liberty]

At the 131 page of <DCS Mig21 . PDF> , it says :

 

"When in automatic mode, the ASP will draw the pipper

according to either Sapphire data (if the airborne/ground target is radar-locked), or pre-set distance,

target size and angular corrections that enable optimal use of ASP sight."

 

But it only works at A-G side in game

[Custard]

I was wondering what Leatherneck still had on their plate for completing the Mig-21 module. Recently I've heard that the ASP sight is still a work in progress, and I've seen Leatherneck release a number of updates, one being a radar fix and another revising the lighting in the cockpit. I'm curious what fixes/adjustments Mig-21 still requires before it is 100%. I'm not talking about additional content, such as campaigns, but any knowledge on those would be nice.

Major problems:

Dodgy flight model when the aircraft departs.

Broken ASP, not working as it should and in some cases being more capable than it is IRL.

RWR not working as it should.

 

+ plenty of other minor issues that can be found in other bugs subforum threads.

[WinterH]

And since it isn't getting mentioned, let me add a minor one :

Unlike how it was for first half of it's existance, now cockpit tooltip labels will also be in Russian if you choose textures to be Russian.

[QuiGon]

And since it isn't getting mentioned, let me add a minor one :

Unlike how it was for first half of it's existance, now cockpit tooltip labels will also be in Russian if you choose textures to be Russian.

 

I don't know if this is a bug. It might be intended to be like that.

[Dudikoff]

I don't know if this is a bug. It might be intended to be like that.

 

Makes sense, although, it would be nice to be able to choose between the available tool-tip languages if more are available (and on the general DCS level, not only MiG-21).

本帖最后于2016年6月21日，由Dudikoff编辑

[WinterH]

I don't know if this is a bug. It might be intended to be like that.

 

For the first half of module's existance, it wasn't that way, and it isn't that way in other modules either. Whatever the language cockpit textures are, if my sim UI language is English, tooltips would also be English. So I doubt it is intented, and if intented I would consider that a quite strange choice.

 

Not a huge deal for me since I know great majority of the switches already at this point. But it would be an issue for someone just starting but doesn't want to change original look of cockpit.

[ezfox]

There is enough work to do for them before final release:

https://leatherneck-sim.mantishub.io/view_all_bug_page.php?refresh=true

 

The chaff and flares bug renders the module useless for me at the moment.

But i´m happy flying the MiG-15 instead until this gets fixed :)

[gavagai]

I would also like to have the Russian cockpit but with tooltips in English.

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

just checked, the BL755 crash is non existant anymore so that is fixed.

[Harle]

Well are you sure that is a bug?

 

Is the ASP supposed to have Calculated Impact points for the cannon in the Air-ground mode (as its a pretty early system im leaning towards a probable no)

 

It might be one of those early sights where you manually have to adjust the sight deflection depending on speed ,range and dive angle.

 

Did you read the manual? Did you try the A-G tutorial?

本帖最后于2016年6月21日，由Harle编辑

[Dugong]

Major problems:

Dodgy flight model when the aircraft departs.

Broken ASP, not working as it should and in some cases being more capable than it is IRL.

RWR not working as it should.

 

+ plenty of other minor issues that can be found in other bugs subforum threads.

 

These hit the nail on the head for me, especially the Flight Model.

 

There seems to be a weird jump between normal flight & stalled wing where the physics model bugs out, indeed i've managed to get trapped in the state where it appears the airflow has no bearing on the flight model whatsoever.

 

The asp is also a major sticking point, though it kind of half works true to life in some modes, and let's not forget the weapon selector and IR/Switch which in real life are preference selectors, not absolute as we have in the sim (this makes dogfighting much harder than it needs to be).

 

And the worst of all ;) the radar contact symbols are still inverted! despite being fixed, supposdley many months ago

[Art-J]

Just as a reminder, for anyone who wants English tooltips when the cockpit is in Russian, all You need to do is edit the fifth line of "hint_localizer.lua" file, changing RU to EN. Or create a mini-mod with JSGME-selectable copy of this edited file.

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Did you read the manual? Did you try the A-G tutorial?

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I don't recall there being a sight dampening button being in the controls options. Anyone else find it?

 

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[foxbat155]

Guys, you forgot about one of most important problem: navigation. RSBN have only little common with RL, should work like in L-39, ARK almost in the same situation. In my opinion navigation in this module should be built one more time almost from scratch.

[grunf]

I don't recall there being a sight dampening button being in the controls options. Anyone else find it?

 

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I think it's the radar lock button.

[Dugong]

Yup the dampening button is the lock button, got changed in a patch a while ago as before that the lock button would unlock the target if pressed again.

 

Guys, you forgot about one of most important problem: navigation. RSBN have only little common with RL, should work like in L-39, ARK almost in the same situation. In my opinion navigation in this module should be built one more time almost from scratch.

 

Can you elaborate on this? I don't have the L39 so not sure how it's supposed to work.:thumbup:

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Ah got it. Thanks

 

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[foxbat155]

Can you elaborate on this? I don't have the L39 so not sure how it's supposed to work.:thumbup:

 

Exist few threads about that. You can download DCS L-39 manual from here:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=149376

 

Read RSBN part and compare with what we have in MiG-21, you will see difference.

[Jaktaz]

I would also like to have the Russian cockpit but with tooltips in English.

 

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