DCS World update July 1, 2016

[CHSubZero]

Hopefully it gets pushed to stable this weekend!

 

+1

[Dwarf_Hunter]

I noticed the sound quality too, the M2000c in cockpit sounds are much better and 3d now.

[rrohde]

Agreed; this is a milestone towards the 2.5 merge. There are too many small changes to name them all, but overall it's fantastic to see where DCS is headed! :thumbup:

[wedge_one]

Hopefully it gets pushed to stable this weekend!

 

+1

 

it's kinda hard for me to imagine such a small company as ED working on three fronts: 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5.

 

then, correct if I'm wrong: 1.5 = 2.0, except for the terrain engine. that's why 2.0 only runs with Nevada so far and they can't simply port Caucasus to 2.0. so when they work on under-the-hood features like sounds on 1.5, it also works for 2.0, correct?

 

meanwhile, 2.0 serves as test bed for Nevada and other theaters and new aircrafts.

 

what bugs me is the 2.5...

 

when the Caucasus T5 (or T4? I'm lost now) "conversion" is complete and also the Nevada, both ready for stable release, they'll simply skip the 2.0 and call it 2.5? instead of 2.0 final or something? which are basically the same thing but they decided to call 2.5 to avoid some kind of confusion?

 

I play DCS World on Steam, so I'm currently using the last stable release of 1.5.3. I simply can't, can't wait to put my hands on the NTTR _on Steam_, along with the Red Flag campaigns for both the F-15C and the A-10C. and I say again: can't wait!

 

I'm unsure about purchasing some upcoming modules like the F-5E and the Mirage 2000 because I'm more interested on other aircrafts such as the F/A-18, the F-14 and the Tucano. but the NTTR will be a day-0 purchase for me.

Edited July 6, 2016 by wedge_one

[Manuel_108]

ED is not THAT small. The company is staffed by extremely smart and talented people, even engineers and doctors!

[BravoFoxTrt]

+1, Thanks

[cichlidfan]

ED is not THAT small. The company is staffed by extremely smart and talented people, even engineers and doctors!

 

Around 50 people, IIRC, and only a small portion of those are writing code, so yes, it is a small group handling three different versions of the sim. How smart and talented they are, and I don't disagree, doesn't change the fact that they are doing three things at once.

[FalconPlot16]

how can i download this ? im using standalone version but i cant get "new update available" screen

[Pocket Sized]

how can i download this ? im using standalone version but i cant get "new update available" screen

 

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/beta/

[SuperKungFu]

I dunno I'm getting the opposite. 1.5.4 seems to have broken a lot of things. My A-10A and F-15C hud is oversized I can't even see the speed and altitude while the rest is fine. Old missions I saved won't load. The mod to view skins in the ME won't work. And they introduced that external view controlled by the trackir which isn't my cup of tea so yea a few things broken here and there.

[bkthunder]

1.5.4 is a good update IMO

 

Apart from the views / TIR issues, everything else saw improvement.

 

The first thing I noticed is the MP "extrapolation algorithm". Not only it reduces the apparent lag, but it seems that it's showing a lot more details in terms of small movements etc. It's not smooth as silk, because the other aircraft move a bit like in a stop-motion movie, but I hope this point will be improved. The good thing is now you can appreciate much much more the subtle yawing, rocking etc. of other aircraft in MP, and watching an aerobatic display or a Mig-21 landing seems a lot more natural.

 

It's generally more stable and maybe more FPS friendly, at least that's the feeling.

 

The viewpoint in the A-10C pit has FINALLY been corrected

 

Pilot body finally added in the F-86, now I hope the others won't be late to the party (A-10, F-15)

 

New Mig-29 A 3d model, bar a small visual bug on the front gear hydraulic lines, it's stunning

 

Added the very-much-needed-and-inexplicably-missing 3d view of the aircraft in the Mission Editor

 

 

I didn't notice anything about the sounds, can someone elaborate on what's new?

[nomdeplume]

The mod to view skins in the ME won't work.

Just in case you've actually been using a mod to do this ... this is built-in functionality now.

[FalconPlot16]

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/beta/

 

it needs seperate installion ? well better i should wait stable release

[Pocket Sized]

it needs seperate installion ? well better i should wait stable release

 

Vast majority of the files will be transferred from your existing install. Actual download is about 2 GB.

[Pocket Sized]

I didn't notice anything about the sounds, can someone elaborate on what's new?

 

Turn off helmet sound and crank up your headphones. Especially in the FC3 aircraft, you'll notice way better sound from the environment.

[Pineapple Pete]

Went back to 1.5.3

 

I had a few issues with 1.5.4 so I went back the 1.5.3 until they can get things fixed. Now I can "ok" out of the controller settings window with getting the never ending black screen and my TrackIR is now working again. The only thing is the Mirage will not track straight on takeoff.

But, ED will get it sorted out I am sure. Overall a wonderful simulator.

On another note, I live in Las Vegas and I am quite impressed with NTTR. Oh yes, I am a corporate pilot so I am seeing a lot of this from the air. What I am allowed to see that is.

Great job ED

[NineLine]

I dunno I'm getting the opposite. 1.5.4 seems to have broken a lot of things. My A-10A and F-15C hud is oversized I can't even see the speed and altitude while the rest is fine. Old missions I saved won't load. The mod to view skins in the ME won't work. And they introduced that external view controlled by the trackir which isn't my cup of tea so yea a few things broken here and there.

 

Have you opened bug posts for each of these issues, ir looked to see if anyone else has?

[XeNoise]

From what I've seen, not many people seem to realize just how great 1.5.4 is.

 

The problem is most of the changes are under the hood and hard to notice. Easiest way to see how much it's improved is to play a few hours on the beta and then switch back to 1.5.3... chances are it won't take long to go back.

 

Summary:

 

1. New sounds. In the cockpit, it no longer sounds like the engine is being shoved into your ear. There's wind noise (which changes with AoA!), ground roll, buffeting, etc. The wind noise really gives the impression you're moving through a substance, rather than magically floating around.

 

2. Overall stability. I've had many cases where I'm doing a long flight in 1.5.3 only to have it cut short by a game freeze or crash. Worst feeling in the world. I'm not saying 1.5.4 never crashes. But you'll find a massive decrease in the number of crashes/freezes while flying.

 

3. Servers no longer accept inaccurate position/velocity data for aircraft. Instead, it uses the last known position/velocity and holds the aircraft there until good data is received. This is HUGE. Instead of warping 20 miles back and fourth during lag, planes will continue in a straight line until the lag ceases, after which they will move to the correct position (usually not too far away). This means you don't have to worry about parking too close to somebody while rearming/refueling. You'll never lose the lead aircraft during lag. The tanker will never freak out and kill everyone trying to refuel.

 

Am I exaggerating how good this update is? Am I late to the party?

 

What? No warping caused by lag?? This must be heaven, any info about when it will be implemented in 2.0? Or bigger question: any info abput when 2.0 and 1.5 will be finally merged? I was not active for quite some time :(

[MikeMikeJuliet]

I dunno I'm getting the opposite. 1.5.4 seems to have broken a lot of things. My A-10A and F-15C hud is oversized I can't even see the speed and altitude while the rest is fine. Old missions I saved won't load. The mod to view skins in the ME won't work. And they introduced that external view controlled by the trackir which isn't my cup of tea so yea a few things broken here and there.

 

This could be a bug translating from VR. You see real HUDs are designed to be looked through with both eyes, so a part of the HUD is visible only to the left eye and part of it to the right eye. Only the center is visible to both eyes. Naturally in 2D the view is sort of in between both eyes. Perhaps the HUD has been skaled to show as intended in VR, and that has broken the 2D view on normal screens...

 

Regards,

MikeMikeJuliet

Edited July 8, 2016 by MikeMikeJuliet
typos...

[Solty]

From what I've seen, not many people seem to realize just how great 1.5.4 is.

 

The problem is most of the changes are under the hood and hard to notice. Easiest way to see how much it's improved is to play a few hours on the beta and then switch back to 1.5.3... chances are it won't take long to go back.

 

Summary:

 

1. New sounds. In the cockpit, it no longer sounds like the engine is being shoved into your ear. There's wind noise (which changes with AoA!), ground roll, buffeting, etc. The wind noise really gives the impression you're moving through a substance, rather than magically floating around.

 

2. Overall stability. I've had many cases where I'm doing a long flight in 1.5.3 only to have it cut short by a game freeze or crash. Worst feeling in the world. I'm not saying 1.5.4 never crashes. But you'll find a massive decrease in the number of crashes/freezes while flying.

 

3. Servers no longer accept inaccurate position/velocity data for aircraft. Instead, it uses the last known position/velocity and holds the aircraft there until good data is received. This is HUGE. Instead of warping 20 miles back and fourth during lag, planes will continue in a straight line until the lag ceases, after which they will move to the correct position (usually not too far away). This means you don't have to worry about parking too close to somebody while rearming/refueling. You'll never lose the lead aircraft during lag. The tanker will never freak out and kill everyone trying to refuel.

 

Am I exaggerating how good this update is? Am I late to the party?

Well, maybe because it is still beta and many of us are waiting for stable release. But I have to say. I love sound in games, so if they changed sounds as you say I am very happy :D Also, more improvment to Multiplayer the better. I hope that means less of jittering as well. I hated those moments when you are behind a 109, and he jumps into hyperspace on the orbit leaving a white trail behind him and then you find him behind you xD

 

Yay for 1.5.4 :3

[Shadow KT]

Has the TWS lag bug been fixed ?

[Timka01]

Am I missed something here????? Cause you guys talking about a new update 1.5.4 and I'm still on 1.5.3.....etc !! Even when I try updating manually it says your DCS is up to data and keeps me in 1.5.3!! Appreciate it in advance for an answer

[BIGNEWY]

Am I missed something here????? Cause you guys talking about a new update 1.5.4 and I'm still on 1.5.3.....etc !! Even when I try updating manually it says your DCS is up to data and keeps me in 1.5.3!! Appreciate it in advance for an answer

 

 

http://updates.digitalcombatsimulator.com/

 

 

Latest stable version is 1.5.3.53279.80

 

Current openbeta is 1.5.4.54316.106 ( but not currently on steam due to a bug )

 

Current openalpha is 2.0.2.52658.72

[adrianstealth]

is 1.5.4 out today?

[BIGNEWY]

is 1.5.4 out today?

 

if it is, watch for announcement here http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=105