My BAUR BRD-F3 Rudder Pedals arrived today. Unboxing Pics!

[Sokol1_br]

... and will make a multi-axis throttle. :music_whistling: :D

[rrohde]

You are not familiar with my work. It is necessary to fix :)

I am a virtual pilot. I am also keen on flights of like you. I know what to virtual pilots. I made for a control device. I'm happy. Now I want you to be as happy as I am :)

 

Thanks Baur! I am indeed *very* happy with my purchase and your support! Love my BRDs! :pilotfly:

[rrohde]

... and will make a multi-axis throttle. :music_whistling: :D

 

+1

 

Maybe with a micro-thumb-stick as well, and some more rotaries, but the one shown below might be a nice starting point... :)

 

[Phantom88]

Congrats!! Those look Hardcore Quality,Say hello to the cat:thumbup: Great pics,Thanks for sharing

[rrohde]

Congrats!! Those look Hardcore Quality,Say hello to the cat:thumbup: Great pics,Thanks for sharing

 

Thanks Phantom. Yes, these pedals are stunning in every aspect. Cat says "hi" ;)

[Seetricks]

They look so sturdy...

 

I've been very interested in BRD flight-sim gears.

Could someone please explain the difference between BRD-MS3 and BRD-F1 ?

I have no idea which one to go for.

 

Best regards.

[Sokol1_br]

Until now looks that even Baur is not able to explain this well - despite his brave efforts with some funny translation (download, tick): :)

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/24303-new-pedals-brd-f3/

 

For what I get:

 

The first "M" in pedal name mean a pedal kinematic based on Kamov helicopter pedals - the curved frame bars (like the OP one). But why "M" and no "K"?

 

This "M came from "Mix", as this pedal frame is based in BDR "MI-8" (Kamov) pedal with adjustable lateral (?) inclination of foot rest (similar the original in that Heli), but simplified for lower the manufacture cost, making a affordable uniaxial (rudder only) pedal as alternative for "Twist rudder" in joysticks - similar to VKB T-Rudder concept.

 

The "Mi-8 Kamov": http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-15841-0-02887300-1466763266.jpg

 

The "F" mean a pedal kinematic base of "Friedrich" (Bf 109) pedal - the straight frame bars.

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-842-0-84637700-1466626894.jpg

 

A "M" based frame pedal can have two different foot rest, the second letter after the M in code:

 

The "F" means "Friedrich" or Bf 109 like foot rest.

The "S" means "Sukhoi" or Su-35 like foot rest.

 

So BRD-MS3 is pedal with Kamov stile frame with Sukhoi 35 like foot rest. The "3" is axis number, indicate that this pedal have "joe brakes".

 

The "F1" is the pedal with "Friedrich" frame with the natural BF 109 like foot rest. ;)

The "F2" is with Su-35 like foot rest.

 

The "F" frame use more metal so cost more - seems ~500$ or more.

 

As the "F" frame has space, their latest revision - not produced yet - will provide support for fit (purchased/installed by the user) motorcycle dampers,

for please that people in their "Quest for the Feel Simulator". ;)

 

The F1 and F2 will have easy to replace - 2 Philips screws - CAM profile with Free, Soft and Clear center position ("explained" - be me - in IL-2 forum).

 

Notice that CAM profiles are coded with grooves in right side.

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_08_2016/post-842-0-04998700-1472636880.jpg

http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/4543-anons-pedalnyj-restyling-ot-brd/page-3#entry444058

 

Optionally with small extra cost you can buy the two style foot rest for same frame and support to install the foot rest inclined laterally instead straight, as well a "X" support for the case don't plan install the pedal bolted in cockpit, but loose over the floor.

 

Hope this this give you a idea - but maybe I have "Mix" some "M" and "F". :D

Await Baur help. He need make a folder of this products. ;)

 

Topic (in Russian) in Avia-Forum explaining Baur CAM center "feel":

 

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=828

 

Notice that this Baur CAM system don't provide a exactly mechanical center - like (un-moded) CH or Saitek pedals - but a almost "clunk" less center.

Edited September 4, 2016 by Sokol1_br
Add info.

[rrohde]

Excellent break-down of information here, Sokol! Thank you! :thumbup:

[Scared Donut]

What was the cost for these?

 

Kind of looking for rudder pedals :p

[Sokol1_br]

Baur say the prices of some models in the above linked IL-2 forum topic - from 190$ (rudder only) to 310$ (w/shipping for Europe). Payment through Western Union.

[Seetricks]

Thank you for your help, Sokol !

[Sokol1_br]

Damper installation in BRD-MF3 with custom support made by user.

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/4543-anons-pedalnyj-restyling-ot-brd/page-4

Edited September 5, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[Baur]

Thank you! That's right except for this -

The "F1" is the pedal with "Friedrich" frame with the natural BF 109 like foot rest. ;)

The "F2" is with Su-35 like foot rest.

Let's do so. Otherwise it is confusion:

 

1. The "F1-F" is the pedal with "Friedrich" frame with the natural BF 109.

2. The "F1-S" is with Su-35 like foot rest.

 

Base rudder F1 - the first picture

 

3. The "F2-F" is the pedal with "Friedrich" frame with the natural BF 109.

4. The "F2-S" is with Su-35 like foot rest.

 

Base rudder F2 - the second picture

 

The "F" frame use more metal so cost more - seems ~500$ or more.

My price is less 380-480 $ :) Depending on the configuration. Prices with delivery.

Edited September 6, 2016 by Baur

[Sokol1_br]

Toke me 3 looks in pictures to see the difference in "F's".:lol: :thumbup:

[BitMaster]

When my Saitek fails I am with you !

 

Now someone needs to make some Throttle that is superior to the TM gear as well ;)

[Farlander]

"190$ (rudder only) to 310$ (w/shipping for Europe)"

 

I am on the lookout for new pedals.. been looking at T-rudder pedals and some others. If i am interpreting these prices correctly i would really like a set for <=300$. Is it possible? i looked at the threads, couldn't find any prices and my russian language knowlege is a bit below the required level.

 

Thanks

[Baur]

I showed a lot of pedals and many modifications. Write what you need pedals? In which country to send? And I counted the price.

 

All the pedals have to to wait for turn for 1-2 months.

[Sokol1_br]

..."1-2 months." Be sure™. :D :thumbup:

 

Farlander,

 

I think this model is what you are looking for:

 

BRD-MS3 ('Mix' base, Sukhoi 35 like foot rest, 3 axis: rudder, right/left brake).

In IL-2 forum Baur say 270$.

Similar model with "Friedrich" (Bf 109) style foot rest is 280$.

Prices include shipping for Europe (probable EURO zone) and are subject to change at any time due Russian economy uncertainties.

Payment through Western Union only.

 

I am not sure if the additional "X" support under pedal base - for non bolted floor use - is included or has additional cost, ask Baur if want one.

 

I think the way is PM or email Baur linking a picture of the model you have interest, informing your postal address for shipping calculations.

Specify too if you want more than one CAM profile (eg."free" for heli, "soft" for planes"), case he allow this option.

 

FYI - Due issues caused by Australian Post he can't send for Australia/NZ.

 

Hope this help.

 

@ Baur,

 

Since you will sold for more places that Europe (minus for ANZAC) will be good inform prices without this "Europe shipping cost included", this will give a people better idea about values.

Edited September 11, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[Farlander]

Already did :) Baur has been very helpful and fast to answer :)

[Baur]

:) http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/4543-anons-pedalnyj-restyling-ot-brd/?p=460412

[Sporg]

:) http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/4543-anons-pedalnyj-restyling-ot-brd/?p=460412

Looks good.

Damper is a very good thing. :)

[Bourrinopathe]

Great addition!

It looks silky smooth with that adjustable damper.

 

Here's the YT video for easy access in that thread:

 

[Lt.Stich]

Just took mine packaging with BRD-MS3. Packing inside and outside are freaking awesome and can hold nuclear explosion :)

Edited October 20, 2016 by Lt.Stich

[heloguy]

Just wanted to throw in my two cents, as I just received my BRD-F2s last week. Really impressed with the build and design, and Baur has fantastic customer support. You can tell he really enjoys what he does, and wants his customers to be happy.

 

They shipped from Sochi to the US, with about 2 weeks being the time enroute I believe. The box was pretty beat up, but everything inside was very well protected with bubble wrap, and even a small board cut to fit in the bottom to support the box. Can't recommend his products enough at this point.

[rrohde]

Welcome to the club, Lt.Stich & heloguy! :)