R-60 AA-8 Aphid "How far are we form a realistic simulaiton?"

[BadHabit]

These are words form a pretty valid source and a accurate simulation.

Not to mention other more valid sources about the AA-8.

How far are we from getting perfomace base to real data at a reasonable realistic way?

 

"The AA-8 Aphid was the first Russian missile designed specifically for dogfighting. The missile uses a peltier-cooled IR detector for all-aspect capability and a high tracking rate to follow

targets manuevering at up to 12G. The seeker also has +-20 degrees gimbal limits allowing shots farther off boresight than earlier missiles. The missile can be launched

from a fighter manuevering at up to 8G. To achieve this maneuverability, the missile's designers traded range and size. As a result, the Aphid must get within a few feet of its target to have a good

chance of causing serious damage.

 

The AA-8 has not demostrated strong combat perfomance. Syrian MIGs firing AA-8s failed to score against Israeli Air Force uring the 1985 invansion of Lebandon."

[Rainbowgeorge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-60_(missile)

i think its a propaganda thing of both sides.

[BadHabit]

Sorry but The link you posted doesn't say much. I have found numerous other sites that prove the data and right now in the sim r 60 & r60m are not better than any k 13.

 

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[Rainbowgeorge]

It says that russia says that it is effective. and it was used to shoot down aircraft

"Several Russian reports affirm the AA-8 was widely used during the 1982 Lebanon war, and it was the main weapon used by the Syrians in air-to-air combat. Some Russian reports affirm that the R-60 was the most successful air-to-air missile deployed by the Syrians in Lebanon over the Bekaa Valley in 1982[5][6] According to Israeli reports, the vast majority of air-to-air combat consisted of visual range dogfights, and this has been also confirmed by Russian sources. The Russian reports also mentioned that several F-4s, F-16, IAI Kfirs were destroyed by R-60s among other aircraft. "

[BadHabit]

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ar3g7DvN5ZPdhj37nP5nxENOFIjh

Link from a SP dogfight, Watch at 03:28 the missile is pulling about 20g's and still can not turn into a 3g turning target, plus i am assuming its tracking since its starts a climb again after it overshoots the f5.