Guram Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hi, has anyone tried this USB powered LED Monitor for DCS WORLD, like for cougar MFD accompaniment ? or any other instrumentals exported to it ? Thanks ! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013XFJKGI/ref=psdc_1292115011_t2_B00CMKOVMO https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkVision-LT1421-Portable-Monitor/dp/B005L2NA54/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1473664757&sr=1-1&keywords=lenovo+usb+powered+monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntropySG Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hi I have the one in your second link (Lenovo). Its great with Helios and with the cougar MFDs. You need however figure out a way how to arrest it, the stand it comes with is way too unstable so you will push it around when you press the MFD buttons. We built a simple wooden casing to hold it, then its perfect. http://i.imgur.com/bvj0xbh.jpg [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I use two of these and I am pretty happy with them: http://www.lilliputuk.com/monitors/usb/um80/ I use Helios to get the A-10C's MFCDs there, including their buttons (I use the touch variant) and a collapsable CDU screen to make inputs. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefalcon Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I went with HDMI monitors after comparing the two type for a long time. A key thing to remember with USB is they need drivers, and the refresh rate and quality just isn't the same because USB just isn't designed for this as part of it native spec. The way I have mine set up is with 2 8" mini monitors that are VESA mounted using a small articulating arms that clamp on to my desk https://amzn.com/B00EQ7HTG6 . The Cougars are velcroed on the monitors, and I can use the VESA arm to position it to the perfect spot for reaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guram Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Thank you very much for info and feedback ! will see what to get , Lilliputs look nice :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guram Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Hi I have the one in your second link (Lenovo). Its great with Helios and with the cougar MFDs. You need however figure out a way how to arrest it, the stand it comes with is way too unstable so you will push it around when you press the MFD buttons. We built a simple wooden casing to hold it, then its perfect. http://i.imgur.com/bvj0xbh.jpg Woow that is really impressive setup ! how did you attached MFD on screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just remember that USB monitors will have far more impact on FPS than those connect to the video card. Data must go from the video card back to the USB bus and then to the USB monitor. This introduces an inherent lag which, depending on the overall speed of your system, may be significant. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guram Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just remember that USB monitors will have far more impact on FPS than those connect to the video card. Data must go from the video card back to the USB bus and then to the USB monitor. This introduces an inherent lag which, depending on the overall speed of your system, may be significant. So if I will have 2 Lilliput monitors for MFD it will significantly drop main monitor FPS? how much ? even if I have GTX1080? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) How much is very system dependent. The only person that could answer that is someone with the exact same config. This can be affected by everything from the CPU all the way down to the USB chipset and drivers being used. If you have a 1080 then the GPU side of the house should be quite good. If the rest of the system is fairly decent, you might not consider the impact significant (i.e. much less than a 5 percent drop). The only way you will know for sure is to try it, as there aren't benchmarks for this kind of thing. Flight simmers do stuff that would never occur to a 'normal' gamer. ;) Edited September 16, 2016 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guram Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 How much is very system dependent. The only person that could answer that is someone with the exact same config. This can be affected by everything from the CPU all the way down to the USB chipset and drivers being used. If you have a 1080 then the GPU side of the house should be quite good. If the rest of the system is fairly decent, you might not consider the impact significant (i.e. much less than a 5 percent drop). The only way you will know for sure is to try it, as there aren't benchmarks for this kind of thing. Flight simmers do stuff that would never occur to a 'normal' gamer. ;) Thanks ! yeah I have I7 4790k at 4.4 Ghz, 24GB 2400Mhz DDR3 RAM and GA-Z97X-SOC Force with Samsung 240 GB SSD and GTX 1080 Strix OC version , everything under Win 10 Home edition 64 bits, guess will have to get those 2 Lillipust for Cougar MFD to know for sure, hope no significant impact om system productivity . USB monitors for this kind of things are very convenient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I haven'tnoticed a significant drop in FPS with my two Lilliputs, and I have a 770. You are on the safe side I guess. :) DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Forum hiccup made me double post.... One additional thing so this post is good for something: Check if there are decent drivers for Win10! I assume there are, but better safe than sorry. The rest of your specs are equal or better than mine in every regard. Edited September 16, 2016 by Aginor DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntropySG Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Woow that is really impressive setup ! how did you attached MFD on screen? sorry, didnt see your post. just with black tape, works well :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Another important consideration, regarding potential FPS impact (btw, I agree that you probably won't see much with your rig) is that although you might be able to measure a slight drop, it is probably something that you would never realize without monitoring it. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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