What about the Mirage2000-5 ?

[probad]

between the iii, 2k and f1 i think we're going to have enough mirages to last us a while.

[Kev2go]

Kev2Go My post on SimHQ dont see nothing about a "Cease and Desime", only confirm the actual "restrictive security act" on function on Russia, and the "directive" of ED from not use any leaked or restricted info on a module develop.

 

Reading comprehension m8. I mtself saidiwas was wrong on the exact term used because quoting from memory initially But I was still right a out law preventing ed from making the sm. So point still stands.

[Kev2go]

I already knew ED had been stopped by Russian Military over the SM variant, and that's completely different to what you originaly said though as you explicitly stated they had a C&D, hence questioning it.

 

 

Still, veering massively off topic.

 

Long and short, probably not getting a 2000-5.

 

 

:doh:

 

I already explained myself twice now.

 

 

In any case unless there is similar such law in France I wouldn't discount possibility of m2000-5

[Chrinik]

I would, pipedreams and false hopes are rediculous.

[Kev2go]

I would, pipedreams and false hopes are rediculous.

 

If m2000-5 is a pipe dream than so would the f18c or f16c fall into same basket, because aircraft from similar era and capabilities. but Cleary that's not the case as ed is working on the f18 and f16 is simulated with various blocks up to the blk52. In the Sim that shall not be named.

 

Just because there no one's currently working on a project right now doesn't mean it's impossible to happen. We all have wishes for aircraft in dcs. Different people have wishes fo4 different aircraft. If it isn't a4.5 gen jet or a fth5 generation design then it's not an unreasonable wish and or expeectation

 

 

If there's any real reason why not to expect the m2000-5 from Razbam any time soon is simply because they are working on other projects atm. Like the harrier and a7 corsair

Edited September 23, 2016 by Kev2go

[jojo]

If m2000-5 is a pipe dream than so would the f18c or f16c fall into same basket, because aircraft from similar era and capabilities. but Cleary that's not the case as ed is working on the f18 and f16 is simulated with various blocks up to the blk52. In the Sim that shall not be named.

 

Just because there no one's currently working on a project right now doesn't mean it's impossible to happen. We all have wishes for aircraft in dcs. Different people have wishes fo4 different aircraft. If it isn't a4.5 gen jet or a fth5 generation design then it's not an unreasonable wish and or expeectation

 

 

If there's any real reason why not to expect the m2000-5 from Razbam any time soon is simply because they are working on other projects atm. Like the harrier and a7 corsair

 

I don't like to repeat but:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2904223&postcount=2

 

Search on Google Hornet and F-16 manuals, you will have plenty of them.

Search for Mirage 2000-5 and tell me :smilewink:

[Paradox]

I would tend to imagine that they already tried to get all that information already and found that there was just a lot more of it for the M2K so went with that instead

[Kev2go]

I would tend to imagine that they already tried to get all that information already and found that there was just a lot more of it for the M2K so went with that instead

 

The limiting issue I'd say was the air to ground mapping mode. M2000-5 has that and many of the multirole fighters even from legacy era like the f4 phantom for example have it. Basically any such project even with enough data would be or have been put on hold until ed finishes I'm sure development on the ground radar function and releases the Hornet.

 

 

So really we can't get any 4th Gen fighters that have that function added until ed finishes on Thier part.

 

 

So yeah of because of that the m2000c made more sense to implement, instead of waiting. Especially since razbam already made for that other sim

Edited September 24, 2016 by Kev2go

[myHelljumper]

air to ground mapping mode. M200-5 has that

 

No it does not.

[Angelthunder]

I like to see Razbam make the MR Mirage 2000D instead someday,since there already making a multi-role F-15E Strike Eagle soon.

[Fri13]

Eagle Dynamics sought a license from Dassault to include the Mirage 2000-5 and its MICA missiles in the game as an AI aircraft? Or the law is different for AI versus player flown aircraft? Is a lawsuit a real possibility (I doubt it). I'm a little confused about where this is going.:huh:

 

When it comes to licensing, it is all about lawyers and that means the licenses are so pin pointed by nasty people that you can be sertain that there is big difference is it AI or player controllable....

[Kev2go]

No it does not.

 

pg5

 

http://www.dassault-aviation.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/08/Engage_02.pdf

 

 

 

I like to see Razbam make the MR Mirage 2000D instead someday,since there already making a multi-role F-15E Strike Eagle soon.

 

 

 

hmm good alternative if we cant get multirole M2000-5, then maybe the 2 seater mud moving M2000D would still be nice.

Edited September 24, 2016 by Kev2go

[myHelljumper]

RDY-2 is only available on the late Mirage 2000-5 Mk2, even less likely in DCS. I think most of the 2000-5 doesn't have A-G modes, but I would like jojo or az to confirm that.

 

And the 2000-5 is not multi-role, the C, the E and the -9 are. I'm not even sure that it can carry dumb bombs.

[Kev2go]

RDY-2 is only available on the late Mirage 2000-5 Mk2, even less likely in DCS. I think most of the 2000-5 doesn't have A-G modes, but I would like jojo or az to confirm that.

 

And the 2000-5 is not multi-role, the C, the E and the -9 are. I'm not even sure that it can carry dumb bombs.

 

well that dassult pdf says the rdy2 improved upon air to ground capabilities. so that would be implying that earlier m2000-5 rdy did have such a function.

 

reading among other things seems to make mentions of a air- ground mode of thel RDY

Edited September 24, 2016 by Kev2go

[jojo]

RDY-2 is only available on the late Mirage 2000-5 Mk2, even less likely in DCS. I think most of the 2000-5 doesn't have A-G modes, but I would like jojo or az to confirm that.

 

And the 2000-5 is not multi-role, the C, the E and the -9 are. I'm not even sure that it can carry dumb bombs.

 

RDY have basic AG mode like the RDI:

- mapping

- terrain avoidance

 

Then it's a matter of customer options. Computing power have increased since the 80'.

Even if French Mirage 2000-5F aren't used for AG, Qataries Mirage 2000-5 were used to release GBU-12 in pair with Mirage 2000D in Libya.

 

Greek Mirage 2000-5Mk2 are close to Mirage 2000-9 and perform AG missions such as Storm Shadow strikes (cruise missile).

[steele6]

what about other earlier versions post the Mirage 2000C - such as the Mirage 2000H - it had a TGP capability and GBU deliveries

[jojo]

what about other earlier versions post the Mirage 2000C - such as the Mirage 2000H - it had a TGP capability and GBU deliveries

 

Yes. But the Mirage 2000E databus (which allows equipments to share data) is different between Mirage 2000C and Mirage 2000E.

 

Mirage 2000EAD was also delivered with PGM capability, for Mirage 2000H I don't really know if it was delivered or custom made in India...

[steele6]

Yes. But the Mirage 2000E databus (which allows equipments to share data) is different between Mirage 2000C and Mirage 2000E.

 

Mirage 2000EAD was also delivered with PGM capability, for Mirage 2000H I don't really know if it was delivered or custom made in India...

 

yes but, would the different Databus impact on the simulation of the Mirage 2000E?

 

I'm just thinking a Mirage 2000E or 2000H with the TGP would be an easier simulation to model compared to the Mirage 2000 -5. (and it would have what all of us want - TGP with GBU capability)

 

Further, could RAzbaam contact Dassault for more information on the Mirage 2000E or H as they made the aircraft. wouldn't they be favourable to Razbaam since they got one for the Original 2000C RDI?

[gavagai]

I'm just thinking a Mirage 2000E or 2000H with the TGP would be an easier simulation to model compared to the Mirage 2000 -5. (and it would have what all of us want - TGP with GBU capability)

 

I've never missed it.

[myHelljumper]

Me neither

[Azrayen]

Again if there's enough data on f18c and f16c I there's enough for the m2000-5. It's not a rafayale or f35 :smilewink:

This is as wrong as it is badly written.

 

RDY-2 is only available on the late Mirage 2000-5 Mk2, even less likely in DCS. I think most of the 2000-5 doesn't have A-G modes, but I would like jojo or az to confirm that.

 

And the 2000-5 is not multi-role, the C, the E and the -9 are. I'm not even sure that it can carry dumb bombs.

 

You're talking about the 2000-5F used in France.

Kev2Go is talking about the 2000-5 (or 2000-5Mk2, or 2000-9) exported or projected.

 

You're both mostly right. You just don't talk about the same aircraft. ;)

 

it would have what all of us want - TGP with GBU capability

Don't assume too much.

Valid remark for other sentences too, by the way.

[myHelljumper]

Yeah bad on my part :D

[Kev2go]

This is as wrong as it is badly written.

 

that's ur opinion m8.:smilewink:

[Azrayen]

Absolutely :)

I do tend to base them on facts, too.

 

Have a nice day :)

[Kev2go]

Absolutely :)

I do tend to base them on facts, too.

 

Have a nice day :)

 

oh good so we have something in common