f4l0 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Hi. A few days ago after one of the beta hotfixes, the main rotor whirl effect on the Gazelle disappeared. Now there's no rotor effect no matter the settings in simshaker. Another long standing issue with the Gazelle is a constant effect on the failure and damage setting, even if there's no damage. Sent fra min G8441 via Tapatalk Thx for the feedback. I'll have a look! Update: A new beta is on the way... Should solve this issue... Edited April 28, 2020 by f4l0 f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums https://simshaker-for-aviators.github.io/SimShaker-for-Aviators-Releases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACG_Yeti Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the quick update. Did a test with the Gazelle now on the latest beta. The rotor effects are back and the damage bug is finally gone. But I get no effect from ETL now. If I remember correctly, it was there earlier, but maybe a bit late in relation to the real ETL. Edited April 28, 2020 by SACG_Yeti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 Hi. A few days ago after one of the beta hotfixes, the main rotor whirl effect on the Gazelle disappeared. Now there's no rotor effect no matter the settings in simshaker. Another long standing issue with the Gazelle is a constant effect on the failure and damage setting, even if there's no damage. Sent fra min G8441 via Tapatalk Thanks for the quick update. Did a test with the Gazelle now on the latest beta. The rotor effects are back and the damage bug is finally gone. But I get no effect from ETL now. If I remember correctly, it was there earlier, but maybe a bit late in relation to the real ETL. I'm currently reworking the ETL effect. I've some trouble with the data DCS gives me regarding wind/IAS to calculate ETL. f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums https://simshaker-for-aviators.github.io/SimShaker-for-Aviators-Releases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACG_Yeti Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Ok, thanks. Sent fra min G8441 via Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauser89 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 To get set up do I need a soundcard, sound module, wings, wings addon, and a ButtKicker Gamer2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 To get set up do I need a soundcard, sound module, wings, wings addon, and a ButtKicker Gamer2?For DCS you need a sound card, Simshaker for Aviators (free), sound module and some form of shaker with amplifier. Or you could go straight for a Jetseat and Simshaker for Aviators option and not bother with the shakers, the cost isn't much difference and IMHO having gone from buttkickers to jetseat is a better option. You will need Wings if you play other flight sims and the Wings sound module if you go with shakers. Edited to add: You can have both jetseat and shakers running together if you go the shakers route and later add a jetseat. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauser89 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) For DCS you need a sound card, Simshaker for Aviators (free), sound module and some form of shaker with amplifier. Or you could go straight for a Jetseat and Simshaker for Aviators option and not bother with the shakers, the cost isn't much difference and IMHO having gone from buttkickers to jetseat is a better option. You will need Wings if you play other flight sims and the Wings sound module if you go with shakers. Edited to add: You can have both jetseat and shakers running together if you go the shakers route and later add a jetseat. My concern with the jetseat is that I tend to sit leaning forward when playing so the back part would kind of be useless or is it really that much better than the buttkicker to still get it? I wonder if the graphics card can be used as a sound card since it has audio jacks. Its a 1080ti. Edited May 1, 2020 by mauser89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vullcan Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 You still lean back don't you? I imagine you primarily lean forward when actively engaging a target or doing something that requires concentration. The jetseat will give you more detailed feedback. The buttkicker will shake harder but be muddied and not as useful as a instrument, more like an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauser89 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Not more than maybe a third of my back. Now that I thought about it, its due to my desk height and the stick being on it with an extension. I would have to reach up unless I get one of those mounting brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow912 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Hi, I was wondering if anyone else has the following issue and had a solution: I regularly fly in multiplayer servers flying the F86 Sabre (usually Aerobatics Online - OpenBeta). I recently connected to a friend’s online server to fly the sabre but when I did, I no longer got any output from my Realteus ForceFeel. I went back onto the AO server and my FF worked fine again. Any thoughts? Sinclair ZX81 - 1K RAM - 16K Wobbly Ram Pack - Tape Drive - Kempston Joystick :helpsmilie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad_turbulence Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) I am using my built-in sound card (gigabyte mobo) for my sound-bar and an external AMP connected to two speakers..so i already have two outputs using a splitter. Will i need a third output for Sim Shaker for Aviators (for use with my ButtShaker Gamer2) from that same audio card? Or will I have to get another sound-card? thanks all !!! This is the splitter I'm using but it's optical and would mean that I would need a third output to be converted to RCA Audio jacks and before I buy another converter, I wanted to check with y'all. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HQ2R314/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. (<<<---That's my splitter) So in summary: My computer goes to the 3-way splitter, , from the splitter I go straight to my optical connection on my SoundBar on my desk, then the 2nd splitter TOSLINK cable goes to my converter to RCA output which is for my Amp to 2 back speakers. Edited May 3, 2020 by bad_turbulence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 ... You need two separate/independent sound outputs. Otherwise you will hear the effect sounds in your normal speakers... Just get a cheap usb sound card to power your bass shaker, that's enough. You can merge/mix the game sound and the effect sound with a virtual mixing software like voicemeeter. Hi, I was wondering if anyone else has the following issue and had a solution: I regularly fly in multiplayer servers flying the F86 Sabre (usually Aerobatics Online - OpenBeta). I recently connected to a friend’s online server to fly the sabre but when I did, I no longer got any output from my Realteus ForceFeel. I went back onto the AO server and my FF worked fine again. Any thoughts? He must enable/allow player exports. f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums https://simshaker-for-aviators.github.io/SimShaker-for-Aviators-Releases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad_turbulence Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) You need two separate/independent sound outputs. Otherwise you will hear the effect sounds in your normal speakers... Just get a cheap usb sound card to power your bass shaker, that's enough. You can merge/mix the game sound and the effect sound with a virtual mixing software like voicemeeter. if im low on USB ports and would like to get an internal sound card for this purpose, what product would you recommend that's workable but not too cheaply made? Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/GODSHARK-Internal-Windows-Profile-Bracket/dp/B07R191M25/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=internal+sound+hard+PCI-E&qid=1588609427&sr=8-18-spons&swrs=AE588B644C9687C500EE6EB857D03E54&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE5VTNVTkxGWDZUVFomZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2NzkxNjg2V1NFTTNFRVU2QVkmZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDg2MzA2NzIwTjdKV0U2UkQ1TkMmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGZfbmV4dCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= What color jack do i plug into on the above GODSHARK device AND if I go USB, something like this: https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-External-Converter-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B01M7QQQC7/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&aaxitk=d8EtHohht2Ol8.eIxSsqdA&hsa_cr_id=8744743280501&ref_=sb_s_sparkle What type of inputs do i need on the sound card? Do I need RCA jacks, or headphone style 3.5mm jacks on the sound card itself? Edited May 4, 2020 by bad_turbulence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 if im low on USB ports and would like to get an internal sound card for this purpose, what product would you recommend that's workable but not too cheaply made? Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/GODSHARK-Internal-Windows-Profile-Bracket/dp/B07R191M25/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=internal+sound+hard+PCI-E&qid=1588609427&sr=8-18-spons&swrs=AE588B644C9687C500EE6EB857D03E54&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE5VTNVTkxGWDZUVFomZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2NzkxNjg2V1NFTTNFRVU2QVkmZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDg2MzA2NzIwTjdKV0U2UkQ1TkMmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGZfbmV4dCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= What color jack do i plug into on the above GODSHARK device AND if I go USB, something like this: https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-External-Converter-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B01M7QQQC7/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&aaxitk=d8EtHohht2Ol8.eIxSsqdA&hsa_cr_id=8744743280501&ref_=sb_s_sparkle What type of inputs do i need on the sound card? Do I need RCA jacks, or headphone style 3.5mm jacks on the sound card itself? Since the audio quality is not important I just bought the cheapest USB sound card for ~$5. Works on my side... Any other sound card would work as well.. f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums https://simshaker-for-aviators.github.io/SimShaker-for-Aviators-Releases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinalGlide Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Hi all, I’m wondering if anyone else has noticed this or can verify if they have a similar problem. My simshaker setup has worked flawless for me but when ever I log onto the “Just Dogfight” or “Storm of War” online servers the simshaker doesn’t work at all. I’ve not found any other servers with this issue. Has anyone else found this issue on those or any other servers? Edit: I just read up the top of the page about Shadow912’s similar issue. I’m guessing the fix will be the same? If so I’ll alert the server owners and ask them if they can change it. Edited May 5, 2020 by FinalGlide FinalGlide Specs: i7 8700k (5Ghz), 32gig 3200Mhz ram, EVO 960 SSD, Asus Strix RTX2080 (OC'd), Windows 10 Pro, Hp Reverb Pro V2, VPC WarBRD with MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VPC MongoosT-50 Throttle, Thrustmaster TPR pedals, Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators and Simshaker Sound Module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipfert Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) Kameraden, Using Buttkicker Gamer 2, with SimShaker for Aviators and Sound Module (Mono). Started tuning in the FW190A-8 and I'm new to this, any suggestions on how to proceed? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. S! Edited May 9, 2020 by Lipfert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Jaeger Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Kameraden, Using Buttkicker Gamer 2, with SimShaker for Aviators and Sound Module. Started tuning in the FW190A-8 and I'm new to this, any suggestions on how to proceed? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. S! Went just recently thrue the process....my jetSeat Cussion just arrived today, so I could tell you about the buttkicker setup but still not there with the cussion. Lot's of fiddeling to adjust it to my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipfert Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Went just recently thrue the process....my jetSeat Cussion just arrived today, so I could tell you about the buttkicker setup but still not there with the cussion. Lot's of fiddeling to adjust it to my liking. Lt_Jaeger, That would be great, I'd just like to understand the thought process during tuning. Is it as simple as tuning one on at a time? S! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Jaeger Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) Lt_Jaeger, That would be great, I'd just like to understand the thought process during tuning. Is it as simple as tuning one on at a time? S!Yeap, that was the way. I started with the butt kicker first, because he was there first, would recommend it anyway. I started with the engine... then wep or afterburner, all the airborne stuff, just adding one at the time. Turned that off, adjusted takeoff, then the rest. Turned everything on, fine tuned. Still not there (with the seat) , some Effekts kinda even hurt. Gesendet von meinem LYA-L29 mit Tapatalk Just made a pic of the basic config. Still fiddeling, though Edited May 11, 2020 by Lt_Jaeger Added Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overalien Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Yeap, that was the way. I started with the butt kicker first, because he was there first, would recommend it anyway. I started with the engine... then wep or afterburner, all the airborne stuff, just adding one at the time. Turned that off, adjusted takeoff, then the rest. Turned everything on, fine tuned. Still not there (with the seat) , some Effekts kinda even hurt. Gesendet von meinem LYA-L29 mit Tapatalk Just made a pic of the basic config. Still fiddeling, though I used both an IBeam Shaker and the JetSeat together before. I found that the JetSeat performs significantly weaker when used like this compared to being used without "Combined Output" (weaker vibration effects). Because of this, I eventually removed the JetSeat and run on iBeam with Sound Module alone. Not sure if this is a software issue or is just subjective observation from my side. Regardless, I found little benefit of having both. The iBeam requires a lot of sound file tweaking (pitch changes) to come to its own, but once that is done, it is amazingly crisp, albeit "only" a MONO Shaker. I would like the developers of both to comment on these observed effects (weaker JetSeat effects when using combined signals) if possible please. __________________ overalien Hog Driver starting to really like the Tomcat System specs: Intel i7-8700k - OC to 5.0 GHz | 32 GB RAM 3600 MHz | Nvidia 1080ti SLi | Mixed Storage - Win 10 and DCS on Samsung SSD 970 Pro Flightgear: 7 Displays (3 x 1440p, 1 X 1080p, 3 X Lilliput Touch) | 3 x Cougar MFDs | Warthog HOTAS | Thrustmaster TPR Pedals | iBEAM Shaker + Simshaker for Aviators w. Sound Module | Helios | VAICOM Pro + AIRIO | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazzer Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Hello, I am on the beta on sim shaker and I've notice the p51 engine rumble is missing. Regards, RTX 2080ti, I7 9700k, 32gb ram, SSD, Samsung Odyssey VR, MSFFB2, T-50 Throttle, Thrustmaster Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Andre= Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I used both an IBeam Shaker and the JetSeat together before. I found that the JetSeat performs significantly weaker when used like this compared to being used without "Combined Output" (weaker vibration effects). Because of this, I eventually removed the JetSeat and run on iBeam with Sound Module alone. Not sure if this is a software issue or is just subjective observation from my side. Regardless, I found little benefit of having both. The iBeam requires a lot of sound file tweaking (pitch changes) to come to its own, but once that is done, it is amazingly crisp, albeit "only" a MONO Shaker. I would like the developers of both to comment on these observed effects (weaker JetSeat effects when using combined signals) if possible please. I think that is subjective observation. Gametrix JetSeats thread (in English) , SimShaker addon for bass-shakers thread (in English), Andre's blog, downloads, manuals (in English). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 just to make sure, and asking for a friend. in order to have DCS use aviators to output audio to a bass shaker, is SIMSHAKER SOUND MODULE for RUB 1 700.00? find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourorborus Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Recently got this add on and love it. Still tweaking the sound files to work well with the dynamic range of my home made drivers. I do have one stupid question though. How do I have permanently raise the volume setting? Every time I start DCS (and thus simshaker) the volume reverts to 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hello, I am on the beta on sim shaker and I've notice the p51 engine rumble is missing. Regards, Thx for the feedback. It's on my list and I'll have a look f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums https://simshaker-for-aviators.github.io/SimShaker-for-Aviators-Releases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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