Razi Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 I'm one of the few here that waits till modules are released (read: out of BETA). I have yet to purchase the MiG-21Bis (and the other BETAs) as I've been waiting for the release, but I'm starting to get the sense that it has subtly shifted status from BETA to release. I wait out the BETA phase because I have nothing to contribute and I like to have a feature complete aircraft (bugs are fine and inevitable), complete manual, training missions, some single missions, and a campaign (hopefully!) when I buy a module. What is the plan for the release of the MiG-21Bis? Is it already released and I missed it? If it is, what is included? Thank you kindly.
QuiGon Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 I'm one of the few here that waits till modules are released (read: out of BETA). I have yet to purchase the MiG-21Bis (and the other BETAs) as I've been waiting for the release, but I'm starting to get the sense that it has subtly shifted status from BETA to release. I wait out the BETA phase because I have nothing to contribute and I like to have a feature complete aircraft (bugs are fine and inevitable), complete manual, training missions, some single missions, and a campaign (hopefully!) when I buy a module. What is the plan for the release of the MiG-21Bis? Is it already released and I missed it? If it is, what is included? Thank you kindly. The MiG-21 is out of beta as per: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2912559&postcount=10 It is feature complete for quite some time now (at least since 2015). Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Razi Posted October 5, 2016 Author Posted October 5, 2016 The MiG-21 is out of beta as per: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2912559&postcount=10 It is feature complete for quite some time now (at least since 2015). Hmm.. that post was last week. Was there no announcement? What is included? Feature complete: Yes Complete Manual: ? Training missions: ? Single missions: ? Campaign: ? Thanks again!
Cobra847 Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 Feature complete: Yes Complete Manual: Yes Training missions: Yes Single missions: Yes Campaign: Yes Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Razi Posted October 5, 2016 Author Posted October 5, 2016 Feature complete: Yes Complete Manual: Yes Training missions: Yes Single missions: Yes Campaign: Yes Fantastic! Thanks Cobra. It is all worth the wait then.
QuiGon Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 Fantastic! Thanks Cobra. It is all worth the wait then. You didn't need to wait that long. All that stuff was already included one year ago ;) But yeah, an announcment was kinda missing. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Razi Posted October 5, 2016 Author Posted October 5, 2016 You didn't need to wait that long. All that stuff was already included one year ago ;) But yeah, an announcment was kinda missing. :) I don't mind waiting. Life is pretty busy (another reason I skip BETA).
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 You deserve a medal for self control or something. Seriously. :lol: Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
streakeagle Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 I am a huge fan of the MiG-21bis, but saying it is feature complete is a bit dishonest. One of the core systems of an interceptor/air superiority fighter such as the MiG-21bis is the gunsight. As released, it wasn't quite finished, but didn't seem too far off from working as it should. In the past few releases it has actually regressed in functionality. The manual range input now requires special scaling when mapped to a joystick axis and the reticle has a fixed size. Until the gunsight works per the manual, I woudn't even call it out of beta, much less feature complete. As originally delivered, I would have recommended buying the MiG-21bis right away. The roughest parts were patched quickly. But ever since the engine changed to the 1.5/2.0 split development branch, the MiG-21bis has been more like an alpha and I have found myself flying it a lot less when the F-86, MiG-15, and F-5E have less problems and are otherwise equally fun to fly. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
some1 Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Looks like ED shop still says it's early access: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/modules/mig21bis/ Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Jaktaz Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 Feature complete: Yes Complete Manual: Yes Training missions: Yes Single missions: Yes Campaign: Yes Wait.... Mig-21 got a campaign??
Art-J Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 Yep, since day one. Not sure if it works correctly in 1.5.4, though. You might want to open and save each mission in the editor before trying it out (the trick used to cope with some compatibility issues of old missions). i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Dugong Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 It'd be nice to see a statement from the devs as to what is still being worked on and to be fixed. It's pretty difficult to help with bug reports and so on when we get only get occasional patch notes.
bkthunder Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I am a huge fan of the MiG-21bis, but saying it is feature complete is a bit dishonest. One of the core systems of an interceptor/air superiority fighter such as the MiG-21bis is the gunsight. As released, it wasn't quite finished, but didn't seem too far off from working as it should. In the past few releases it has actually regressed in functionality. The manual range input now requires special scaling when mapped to a joystick axis and the reticle has a fixed size. Until the gunsight works per the manual, I woudn't even call it out of beta, much less feature complete. As originally delivered, I would have recommended buying the MiG-21bis right away. The roughest parts were patched quickly. But ever since the engine changed to the 1.5/2.0 split development branch, the MiG-21bis has been more like an alpha and I have found myself flying it a lot less when the F-86, MiG-15, and F-5E have less problems and are otherwise equally fun to fly. I have the same feelings regarding the Mig-21. Especially regarding the high AoA behaviour. Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
Pocket Sized Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 I have the same feelings regarding the Mig-21. Especially regarding the high AoA behaviour. It's still not 100% fixed but in the latest 2.0 patch it became much less stable at high AoA. If you pull before neutralizing rolling/yawing moments the aircraft has a tendency to depart. Violently. DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works.
westr Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Hi guys, apologies if it's already been asked but are you planning to release a pilot body for the Mig-21? RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV
LupinYonder Posted October 23, 2016 Posted October 23, 2016 Does the jamming pod work/do anything now ? I'm sure it will be next to useless against modern FC3 craft but I think it was on the list of things to do.
probad Posted October 23, 2016 Posted October 23, 2016 in a sense... it'll put a ladder on another guy's radar screen.
Oceandar Posted October 23, 2016 Posted October 23, 2016 You deserve a medal for self control or something. Seriously. Couldn't agree more. Control is power. BTW enjoy MiG-21, its worth the waiting :) Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze
Eihort Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Good luck though figuring out the switchology of the ECM pod. I can't find a good guide or decent instructions anywhere.
Bufo Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Good luck though figuring out the switchology of the ECM pod. I can't find a good guide or decent instructions anywhere. I think its in the manual. I didn't have any trouble using it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
probad Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Good luck though figuring out the switchology of the ECM pod. I can't find a good guide or decent instructions anywhere. that's just a taste of what devs have to face when they want to start building the ecm functionality in the first place :lol:
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