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Thx for sharing Sokol. The gun convergence of Spit in DCS is set ATM to 300 yards. For Bf 109 or Fw 190 according to the book this should be 1/3 of the sight circle diameter.

Now, setting the sight distance for 300 yards and base for 30 feet at the moment results in more or less 1/5 or 1/6 of the diameter. Am I missing some understanding or is there some misalignment between the book and how the Spit sight is working in DCS?

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That's strange.

 

Spit. Mk IX typical "clients", Bf 109 and Fw 190 has wingspan ~32 and ~35 foots

 

Is supposed that Mk. IX convergence (in true harmonization pattern) is set for 300 yards ~274 meters (some guys "test" and find 270 yards)

 

Using in Fw 190 D-9 wingspan ~35 feet ~ 10.5 meters as example.

 

Mk. II gunsight circle diameter is 118 mills (radius 59). DCS Flight Manual page 165.

 

Target distance = target wingspan/(circle number of mills/1000)

 

Target filling the circle ~90 meters = (10.5/(118/1000)=(10.5/0.116)

 

Target half of the circle ~181 meters.

 

Target 1/3 of the circle =267 meters ~292 yards - for simplify we consider 300 yards.

 

Some Bag the Hun drawings with Fw 190 at 300 yards. Is more or less 1/3 of gunsight circle:

 

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But in game for BASE disk set in ~35 feet, the RANGE disk need be in ~230 yards (210 meters) for the space between horizontal lines correspond to 1/3 - slight more than propeller width (as above).

 

The space between lines for the adjust RANGE 300 yards and BASE 35 feet suggest a target at ~500 yards. And the point in what MG shoots meting seems more close than this.

 

Mk_II_DCS.jpg

 

Of course, I can be mixing the things. :D


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Yea, I was too fast and did a small mistake with my calculation. To serve the 109 or 190 the base should be set to ~35 not 30 feet. By the way, what is the minimum setting for the base 35 or 30? It's hard to judge by looking on the base disk scale in cokpit.

Regardles of that I think the results are more or less the same which is with setting of 300 yards and 35 feets the sight shows the target at ~500 yards.

I have an idea how to do some more testing. I'll try to get back with the results during the evening.

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BASE minimum adjust seems 30 feet, for 35 set in half space between right and 40 mark.

 

The more practical test is set a QM with friendly Fw 190, distance icon ON and see at what distance their wingtips fill the space between two horizontal lines, and the circle.

 

I am not able to test, the spare stick I am using is very bad, barely able to take off and fly.

 

The point that MG shoots are meting suggest a distance less than ~500 yards suggest by space between lines.


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With gunsight in adjust 300 & 35.

Pause on trigger, "fired" when the distance icon change.

 

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BTW - User preferred adjust should be saved, setting the gunsight in air starter QM is PITA. :noexpression:

 

EDIT - Or BASE set by default for 35 feet (Bf 109/Fw 190) and not this 60 (?).


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