myHelljumper Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Again : no. Sorry. When BR system switch is On, then V light is On. BR light indicates that the jamming is active. It may sound a bit weird at first but : BR means brouilleur on the switch = relates to the powering of the jammer system in a whole. When "just" powered, it remains in listening (= V / veille) mode. Veille is in the sense of listening, not stand by, here. BR means brouillage on the light = relates to the activation of the jamming emitter (=actively jamming) I stand corrected, thanks for the clarification, this way it sounds logical :thumbup: Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 That is correct. So lets assume I have the knob switched to [], and the HOTAS command on emit, V+BR are lit. Now I switch the jammer off by rotating to VEI, only V is lit. If I now turn the knob back to [], and we choose option 1 in the poll, the jammer will instantly start emitting, since it remembers my last HOTAS button setting, but I would have no way of knowing that. So I would prefer option 2 unless there is some type of indication for the "remembered" HOTAS setting. Hope this clears it up. This is how Option 1 works: VEI = jammer goes to standby: V is lit, BR is dark. VEI -> [] = jammer remains in standby: V is lit, BR is dark. You must use HOTAS to change jammer mode. [] -> PCM = jammer goes active: V is lit, BR is lit. PCM -> [] = jammer remains active: V is lit, BR is lit. You must use HOTAS to change jammer mode. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobeshow Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 This is how Option 1 works: VEI = jammer goes to standby: V is lit, BR is dark. VEI -> [] = jammer remains in standby: V is lit, BR is dark. You must use HOTAS to change jammer mode. [] -> PCM = jammer goes active: V is lit, BR is lit. PCM -> [] = jammer remains active: V is lit, BR is lit. You must use HOTAS to change jammer mode. Thanks for the clarification, so VEI -> [] will always leave you on standby no matter what, but PCM -> [] and vice versa depends on your HOTAS, in that case option one would be my vote. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "DCS World is the main public build, it has nothing to do with being stable" -Bignewy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Thanks. No headbreakings. No 1. Do nothing. There is much other things to do.:smilewink: New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 No 1. Do nothing. There is much other things to do.:smilewink: Indeed. Harrier awaits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin_Hood Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Thanks for the clarification, so VEI -> [] will always leave you on standby no matter what, but PCM -> [] and vice versa depends on your HOTAS, in that case option one would be my vote. No, going from PCM to [] will always leave your ECM emitting, until you turn it off. The HOTAS switch acts as a toggle, not a 2-position switch. Thanks. No headbreakings. No 1. Do nothing. There is much other things to do. Except the current implementation is not option 1. It will have to be changed. 2nd French Fighter Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrayen Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Indeed, current implementation is more like option 3. But as we can see, not the best idea :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Since both Option 1 and Option 2 are gathering the same interest I think I will create a Soecial Options entry for this. Since it boils down to personal preferences and has zero impact on mission creation. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow0827 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Zeus, after next the behavior update. if "Behavior of the SW in RL" is revealed, would you correct the work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrayen Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 @crow0827 I would dare to say your question is kinda moot: IRL, the jammer doesn't work as an "on/off" pilot-controlled noise-making-only thing like it does in DCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacker Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Since both Option 1 and Option 2 are gathering the same interest I think I will create a Soecial Options entry for this. Since it boils down to personal preferences and has zero impact on mission creation. Perfect! i7-4790K@4.7GHz : EVGA 1070 SC : 16GB Corsair Vengence Pro : 2xEVO 840 SSD : EVGA 850W PSU : CORSAIR H100i Cooler : ASUS Z97-AR MB : CORSAIR OBSIDIAN 750D FULL TOWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Since both Option 1 and Option 2 are gathering the same interest I think I will create a Soecial Options entry for this. Since it boils down to personal preferences and has zero impact on mission creation. While this might seem to be the "least evil" option currently, I would avoid putting it into special options as this will add up to the confusion later on with people asking what is the the difference. I'd suggest if you go for one option, go for it. We'll adapt. (Voted option 1) AMD R7 5800X3D | Aorus B550 Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 4080 | VKB MGC Pro Gunfighter Mk III + Thustmaster TWCS + VKB T-Rudder Mk4 | HP Reverb G2 FC3 | A-10C II | Ка-50 | P-51 | UH-1 | Ми-8 | F-86F | МиГ-21 | FW-190 | МиГ-15 | Л-39 | Bf 109 | M-2000C | F-5 | Spitfire | AJS-37 | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Як-52 | F-14 | F-16 | Ми-24 | AH-64 NTTR | Normandy | Gulf | Syria | Supercarrier | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_A Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 After more careful look at the subject using the jammer in the last few days, i would have changed my vote from 2 t o1. the only difference from today (from cold start) would be that you don`t need to shut it down after setting to to [] . IAF.Tomer My Rig: Core i7 6700K + Corsair Hydro H100i GTX Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7,G.Skill 32GB DDR4 3000Mhz Gigabyte GTX 980 OC Samsung 840EVO 250GB + 3xCrucial 275GB in RAID 0 (1500 MB/s) Asus MG279Q | TM Warthog + Saitek Combat Pedals + TrackIR 5 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Since both Option 1 and Option 2 are gathering the same interest I think I will create a Soecial Options entry for this. Since it boils down to personal preferences and has zero impact on mission creation. That sounds great! Thx. Lord of Salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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