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Nothing on Amazon.de yet.

Anyone seen anything htere yet?

 

I've delayed the launch a final time until the end of this week. This is due to the continued high level of demand we're still experiencing through the virpil.by web store.

 

Of course I want to ensure that our customers receive the best possible service, so our resources (both staff and stock) must be allocated in a way that does not degrade the service received!

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Anyone who has been waiting for their shipment for an unusually long period of time (3+ weeks) please email me at sale@virpil.com with your order number and tracking code. There was an issue with EMS' forwarder that has since been resolved but I'm chasing up individual packages personally :)

 

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Please excuse me for asking on this thread :

Will this throttle be available soon / this year ?

 

 

https://postimg.org/image/whp7o3mvp/

 

Could anyone ( maybe some VPC MongoosT 50 owners ) tell me which stand would match with the MongoosT 50 base ?

Thank you

 

https://www.monstertech.de/produkt/joystick-hotas-tischhalterung/

I already have 2 like this, 1 for the throttle and 1 for the joystick ( Saitek X56 ) but i want to replace the joystick as soon as possible, so i could send back the one for the joystick and getting another one for MongoosT 50

Thank you

monstertech_joystick_table_mount.thumb.jpg.b3ae82a17f6f81469f2195ceb8695bf2.jpg


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This plate for Saitek X-56 could be used since is big, but you need make new holes in the plate matching with T50 bottom plate bolts position.

 

http://www.mudspike.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/P9045965-e1504891627481-768x1024.jpg

 

Or submit T-50 base measurements, holes positons for Monsterch and ask for a "bolt an play" plate.

 

Will this "half" holes in T50 case for their bolts for base plate - that is just a cover, fit the stick well in this new plate?

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It is not recommended to mount using the underside screws of the aluminium housing as these are not designed to be load-bearing.

 

Instead you want to mount to the rear side which has 4 bolts connecting straight to the gimbal housing providing far superior mounting strength.

 

VPC_MT-50_UBRACKET_02.jpg

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I ordered ( second hand ) the Thrustmaster Warthog joystick, and i'm gonna use only the base, for MongoosT 50, and this :

I hope they match together

By the way, what's the difference between VPC MongoosT-50 base and TM Warthog Base ? which one is better ?

Is the stiffness an issue on TM Warthog Base, even if i use it with MongoosT 50 ?

monstertech_joystick_table_mount_warthog_joystick_black.thumb.jpg.5799e95c83b3354b9a42a3ce55d3be2d.jpg


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Instead you want to mount to the rear side which has 4 bolts connecting straight to the gimbal housing providing far superior mounting strength.

 

VPC_MT-50_UBRACKET_02.jpg

 

But will those 4 holes match, with this ?

 

 

https://postimg.org/image/4gxz9aeb9/

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But will those 4 holes match, with this ?

 

https://postimg.org/image/4gxz9aeb9/

 

Perhaps this 2/3D montage show what you are missing: a Mostertech plate for T50 need have a vertical attachment point for bolts, not horizontal like all plates they sell actually. ;)

 

Mtec2.jpg

 

 

Send Cyph3r drawings (better in CAD than .JPG... :music_whistling: ) for Monstertech and ask for make one, is their business.

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I'm not sure, but it should go something like this

But i dont know about the distances

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Perhaps this 2/3D montage show what you are missing: a Mostertech plate for T50 need have a vertical attachment point for bolts, not horizontal like all plates they sell actually. ;)

 

Mtec2.jpg

 

 

Send Cyph3r drawings (better in CAD than .JPG... :music_whistling: ) for Monstertech and ask for make one, is their business.

I agree. That's the solution that makes sense, and I have produced a similar plate for my own T-50.

I have already communicated dimensions to Monstertech, and they were ordering a T-50.

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what about my latest post / picture ??

shouldn't that work ?

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what about my latest post / picture ??

shouldn't that work ?

Yes, except I made the horizontal part of my plate much shorter (about 80 mm) in the interest of stability.

 

Edit: My original response above was looking at Sokol's solution. This is basically the right solution, and it's also what Cyph3r suggested.

If you mount the T-50 base on top of a straight plate, the grip will be too high in my opinion.

 

Also the current holes in the bottom plate of the T-50 are too far apart to be used with the Monstertech plate for the TM WH stick.

You would have to drill new holes the the T-50 bottom plate.


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Ah, ok. But this should be stable enough, I guess

By the way, although it wouldn't look nice, it seems that the MongoosT 50 base could be mounted / screwed on the pc desk


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Guys together with the drawing provided by VPC you can go ahead and create your own cut vector using illustrator or other vectorprograms and have it produced (including chamfering) at http://www.geerscutting.de They offer all sorts of metals and thicknesses.

I had them produce lots of stuff for me. They are cheap and deliver good quality.

They sometimes take a while since they got lots of work thou.

Here is my setup: https://www.pic-upload.de/view-33999922/VPC.jpg.html

The aluminium mountingplate you see where my T50 is mounted in is lasercut by geers.

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Ah, ok. But this should be stable enough, I guess

By the way, although it wouldn't look nice, it seems that the MongoosT 50 base could be mounted / screwed on the pc desk

I think there is consensus that the T-50 is too high for that.

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I think there is consensus that the T-50 is too high for that.

 

not if you screw it UNDER the desk. I was considering using a VPC base for my left hand as well and had Geerscutting cut a 5mm aluminium with the vectors as seen in the screenshot.

This way its comfortable to use when sitting on a standard officechair.

I would do one modification on this vector. The outermost screws only hold the actual gimbal indirectly. Thats actually the screews that attach the upper facing plate with the outer housing and not the gimbal itself. So either modifying the cutlines so the innermost screws are the ones used would be advisable OR simply using this cutvector and adding 2 holes in the front so you can use the U-shaped mountingbracked thats delivered with the T50. The one thats also used to attach the T50 to their own deskmount.

The holes on the left are for woodscrews so you can attach it to the deskplate from below.

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Here is the actual DXF file of the vector if anyone needs it:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2w59ppmks57vxm/Virpil_Centerplate.dxf?dl=0


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not if you screw it UNDER the desk. I was considering using a VPC base for my left hand as well and had Geerscutting cut a 5mm aluminium with the vectors as seen in the screenshot.

This way its comfortable to use when sitting on a standard officechair.

I would do one modification on this vector. The outermost screws only hold the actual gimbal indirectly. Thats actually the screews that attach the upper facing plate with the outer housing and not the gimbal itself. So either modifying the cutlines so the innermost screws are the ones used would be advisable OR simply using this cutvector and adding 2 holes in the front so you can use the U-shaped mountingbracked thats delivered with the T50. The one thats also used to attach the T50 to their own deskmount.

The holes on the left are for woodscrews so you can attach it to the deskplate from below.

Bildschirmfoto2017-09-29um11.14.33.png

 

Here is the actual DXF file of the vector if anyone needs it:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2w59ppmks57vxm/Virpil_Centerplate.dxf?dl=0

 

This is definitely what we'd recommend. Don't put all the mounting stress through the external housing!

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Actually Cyph3r would it be awesome if we could get a technical drawing (maybe a PDF so the vectors are still editable) of the upper faceplate including the holes for the springpressure adustment screws. We could then modify the outer contour to our needs.

 

Is that possible?

 

EDIT: This way we could strip the whole gimbal from the housing in order to have it built into our simpits. That would be the most elegant solution.

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Actually Cyph3r would it be awesome if we could get a technical drawing (maybe a PDF so the vectors are still editable) of the upper faceplate including the holes for the springpressure adustment screws. We could then modify the outer contour to our needs.

 

Is that possible?

 

EDIT: This way we could strip the whole gimbal from the housing in order to have it built into our simpits. That would be the most elegant solution.

 

I should be able to whip that up for you :thumbup: - please bear with me though, it's still a bit frantic over here trying to catch up with demand!

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I should be able to whip that up for you :thumbup: - please bear with me though, it's still a bit frantic over here trying to catch up with demand!

 

Thanks. Sure. Take your time.

 

EDIT: btw, Any news on AMAZON listings? I have some friends that want to pull the trigger.


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Thanks. Sure. Take your time.

 

EDIT: btw, Any news on AMAZON listings? I have some friends that want to pull the trigger.

 

They're getting toggled on and off each day as we collect (very) small numbers of orders. This is so that we can go through the entire process with the EU/Amazon platform and ensure there are no issues.

 

Also due to the demand we're experiencing with orders just from http://www.virpil.by, we need to be realistic with any extra demand we can handle at this precise moment in time!

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