way to tell if you are dispensing?

[unipus]

Just curious, maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but it appears that chaff/flare release is an on/off situation, where once you trigger the releease, you must manually trigger it again to stop it. The release pattern of course being modified by the various settings you apply on the panel.

 

However, the sound of release is almost inaudible in the cockpit, and there doesn't seem to be a visual indicator anywhere - is there any way to tell if you are releasing or not (other than looking all the way back, and even so with chaff it can be hard to see), so you don't end up out of countermeasures when you didn't expect to be?

[IonicRipper]

There is a quick flash that indicates a flare/chaff release on the right warning panel while releasing countermeasures

Edited February 12, 2017 by IonicRipper

[2-niner]

There is a quick flash that indicates a flare/chaff release on the right warning panel while releasing countermeasures

 

That's a good tip, but I just want to point out that you can't always rely on that being an indicator for chaff/flare being dispensed since it will also flash when ECM is being broadcast (if you're carrying an ECM pod and it's active).

 

The indicator being flashed is "Motverk" which basically means "counter-measures", so it's a generic indicator for that some sort of counter-measures is being employed - which can be ECM, chaff or flare.

 

So yeah it's kind of a problem. But you should be able to see if "Motverk" is flashing synchronously with incoming spikes on the RWR or not, and if it's not then I guess it's dispensing.

[mattebubben]

That's a good tip, but I just want to point out that you can't always rely on that being an indicator for chaff/flare being dispensed since it will also flash when ECM is being broadcast (if you're carrying an ECM pod and it's active).

 

The indicator being flashed is "Motverk" which basically means "counter-measures", so it's a generic indicator for that some sort of counter-measures is being employed - which can be ECM, chaff or flare.

 

So yeah it's kind of a problem. But you should be able to see if "Motverk" is flashing synchronously with incoming spikes on the RWR or not, and if it's not then I guess it's dispensing.

 

Well the ECM mostly really activates when being locked up.

So thats when you want to use CM anyway

(and if you have the Countermeasures in Automatic it will release Chaff automatically when locked anyway).

 

So its not really much of a problem.

Edited February 12, 2017 by mattebubben

[legitscoper]

Why ecm is activating on lock? It will only mare easier to target you

 

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[renhanxue]

Because ECM in the real world doesn't work like in DCS.

[QuiGon]

Why ecm is activating on lock? It will only mare easier to target you

 

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Because what renhaxue said. See here:

 

[nullsys]

Because what renhaxue said. See here:

 

 

So does this mean we shouldn't really bother with ECM?

[Xxx]

Set up a small practise mission with an SA-8. It uses j band and I band radar to track you and its missile. It can fire and track two missiles simultaneously.

 

Attack it with your ECM on (try different modes and the auto mode) and try it without ECM.

 

Can you see a difference?

 

TACVIEW is also great to have here!

 

Regards

 

David

[nullsys]

Set up a small practise mission with an SA-8. It uses j band and I band radar to track you and its missile. It can fire and track two missiles simultaneously.

 

Attack it with your ECM on (try different modes and the auto mode) and try it without ECM.

 

Can you see a difference?

 

TACVIEW is also great to have here!

 

Regards

 

David

 

Thank you!

I've gone through several times, all with the same height, speed, etc.

So far, maybe 5 seconds of difference between a missile launch, which could just be normal random figures kicking in.

 

I can't see much of a difference between having it on the plane, and not.