Help with GTX1070 terrible FPS

[Kamov Akula]

Title says it all. I am playing the first mission in the Georgian Oil Campaign in the Su-25t. While following the Enroute to the AO as I pass the mountains to my left the frame rate slows down so much I can actually count it. (3-4 fps)

 

The FPS gets better if I turn my view directly to the mountains - when I look forward in the cockpit again, it drops. I have no idea what is wrong, this graphics card is much better than my previous R9 290x GPU in every game except this one - on DCS it actually does worse!

 

I have set graphics option down for the MSAA to x4 and Anisotropic filtering to x8. I also set cockpit resolution down to 512. Still no difference.

Edit: All other settings at default HIGH preset.

Edit2:It's only the environment FPS that slows, the cockpit seems to be unaffected.

 

Anyone have any ideas?

 

Operating System

Windows 10 Home 64-bit

CPU

Intel Core i5 4690K @ 3.50GHz 32 °C

Haswell 22nm Technology

RAM

16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 800MHz (9-9-9-24)

Motherboard

MSI Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917) (SOCKET 0) 30 °C

Graphics

2770 (1920x1080@60Hz)

DELL E228WFP (1680x1050@60Hz)

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (ASUStek Computer Inc) 35 °C

Storage

223GB KINGSTON SV300S37A240G (SSD) 27 °C

465GB SAMSUNG HD501LJ (SATA) 28 °C

232GB Western Digital WDC WD25 00BEVT-00A23T0 USB Device (USB)

Edited February 12, 2017 by Kamov Akula

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

disable VR functionality and make sure you press: Left Alt+Enter once in the game to activate full screen mode (yes, the option in menu doesnt work).

[thinkr]

Did this fix it?

[Kamov Akula]

Hey thanks WatermanPC - and thinkr, its a bit late tonight but I will try this fix tomorrow after work and check back in to let you both know how it worked. Cheers!

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

btw, make sure you click something in the DCS screen before doing alt+enter (I mean just make sure the DCS app is the one being in first plane, if you dont change to another app once inside DCS this is not needed but just in case), otherwise it wont happen anything and you might think it doesnt work.

[Kamov Akula]

Didn't work for me.

 

I made sure the the graphics setting was on HIGH not VR, and I hit alt + enter to make sure it is in full screen, but no cigar. Thanks for the input, I'm open to any other suggestions since I have no idea what is wrong.

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

if fps drop to 3-4fps then it could be a problem with the graphics card or something running in the background...thats a hell of a fps drop mate!!...check temperatures during gaming, GPU/CPU usage, ram/vram usage, GPU/CPU clocks during game, other programs running, etc. Check also other games/benchmarks to see how well the card/system performs, as I said maybe there is a problem with the card itself.

[majapahit]

sometimes when this happened to me, really low FPS, this is a bad install with broken textures.

 

sometime 'DCS_updater.exe repair' doesn't help with this, you then have to rename/delete your dcs directory and do a complete fresh install (from most recent BINs)

[mkiii]

FWIW, have you checked that your CPU is clocking at what you think it should be? CPU performance seems to have a greater effect on DCS than what MY GFX card is set to. I thought my 3.5 Ghz i7 was clocked at about 4.0 Ghz, but realised that Windows (10) Power/performance options were throttling it. It might be worth a peek at the Power Options Advanced Settings Processer Power Management option to make sure that the Maximum Processer State is at 100% Clearly, Windows thinks my Tower is a Laptop, because even on the High performance plan, it was trying to save juice.

 

Although I havent cured all performance issues by far, I have managed to get DCS to at least run at my monitors max setting of 60 fps, where it was running at half that with the same GFX card, and CPU speed throttled. My real problem though, may have been using the ASUS Turbo-V OC software that came with my PC - It's far better AFAIK to not use this, but to rely on BIOS settings.

Edited February 14, 2017 by mkiii

[Pac-Man]

You have something else going on. I have been running the EVGA GTX 1070 since 2 weeks after its release. Did you make sure that you're AMD drivers were completely removed before installing the GTX 1070? They may be conflicting. I average 60FPS on the ground and 100+ above 20000 ft. with all three screens and graphic setting maxed on all options.

 

This SCREAMS drivers to me. Also, what is the temp of the GPU when the framing starts? What is the version of the 1070.... FTW? SC? etc ....

 

Rig:

3 X 27" 1920*1080 Samsung monitors

Asus Z270 Prime -A motherboard

i7 7700k 4.0ghz

32g Corsair Vengeance DDR4

EVGA GTX 1070

[Kamov Akula]

Thanks for the input everyone! Taking all your suggestions I am now going to go the route of deleting and then doing a fresh reinstall of both the DCS game and Graphics Card drivers. I'll check back in and let you know how it went. Cheers!

[Kamov Akula]

I did a fresh reinstall of DCS World and went to the AMD website and used their clean driver uninstall utility. It didn't make any difference. I would like to take a video of exactly where the FPS drops the most in hopes that experienced people might be able to assess the problem better if they can see it. How can I record the game? I know the in-game "replay" won't do because that's literally a replay, not a recording. Any suggestions? Thanks!

[Kamov Akula]

FWIW, have you checked that your CPU is clocking at what you think it should be? CPU performance seems to have a greater effect on DCS than what MY GFX card is set to. I thought my 3.5 Ghz i7 was clocked at about 4.0 Ghz, but realised that Windows (10) Power/performance options were throttling it. It might be worth a peek at the Power Options Advanced Settings Processer Power Management option to make sure that the Maximum Processer State is at 100% Clearly, Windows thinks my Tower is a Laptop, because even on the High performance plan, it was trying to save juice.

 

Although I havent cured all performance issues by far, I have managed to get DCS to at least run at my monitors max setting of 60 fps, where it was running at half that with the same GFX card, and CPU speed throttled. My real problem though, may have been using the ASUS Turbo-V OC software that came with my PC - It's far better AFAIK to not use this, but to rely on BIOS settings.

 

Yes that part I was able to confirm before I came here, using CPU-z. The CPU is clocking at 4.4Ghz using a multiplier.

[hughlb]

You could try Fraps. That will record your screen to a video file. It usually has a cap of 30 seconds for the freeware version. You could also try using your smartphone to record the screen and fps counter in DCS. The reason I say this is because Fraps may affect your framerate, which defies the whole point of capturing the video.

[AtaliaA1]

I would love to hear from a Member who has the same system except for the Processor. Someone with an i7 and the exact MB and other parts as yours.

 

 

Anyone?

[razo+r]

Just got a 1070 and have no frame issues with DCS.

[Scottvdken]

Same here. Specs in sig, but I have had excellent performance. Never dips below 60fps. I agree with what has been said earlier - this really sounds like a driver issue. I don't think you ever clearly stated so just to make sure: your drivers are fully up to date, correct?

 

Do you have issues in other games? Have you tried benchmarking the GPU?

[Dnil]

what is your water setting?

[Kamov Akula]

Same here. Specs in sig, but I have had excellent performance. Never dips below 60fps. I agree with what has been said earlier - this really sounds like a driver issue. I don't think you ever clearly stated so just to make sure: your drivers are fully up to date, correct?

 

Do you have issues in other games? Have you tried benchmarking the GPU?

 

No, I just made sure the old AMD drivers were taken out. I thought the card is so new that can't be an issue but I shouldn't assume. So that's what I will do next, then if that fails I'll record a play and post it for more help. Thanks!

[razo+r]

No, I just made sure the old AMD drivers were taken out. I thought the card is so new that can't be an issue but I shouldn't assume. So that's what I will do next, then if that fails I'll record a play and post it for more help. Thanks!

 

What is the gpu clock and memory clock speed?

[Kamov Akula]

What is the gpu clock and memory clock speed?

 

I noticed that during the frame rate drop, my 1070 doesn't step up to the high clock speeds. It stays down at idle. This is so frustrating. One thing I don't like about these newer cards is that I can't force constant speeds on them! Or at least I haven't found a way to do it with my card... Also I did update the driver to the latest and it hasn't helped.

[splash]

Mine too. Normally my 1070 core clock is at 800-900 MHz all the time, whether I set high graphics settings or not, or Vsync on/off. In Nevada sometimes I get 1868 or so in core but most of the time I'm in the 800-900 range.

[majapahit]

I noticed that during the frame rate drop, my 1070 doesn't step up to the high clock speeds. It stays down at idle. This is so frustrating. One thing I don't like about these newer cards is that I can't force constant speeds on them! Or at least I haven't found a way to do it with my card... Also I did update the driver to the latest and it hasn't helped.

 

if your card doesnt throttle, it does not in other games also?

 

then you card might be faulty?

[AtaliaA1]

Wondering if it is possible the 1070 could have this type of negative impact if plugged into the wrong or lower speed GPU Motherboard adapter.