2.5 ?

[flo57100]

Hi there !

 

Are there any news about DCS 2.5 ? I remember I saw very nice picture of the Caucasus map under 2.5 some times ago last year, but nothing then...

[SY5TEM5]

Yeah please give us an update on 2.5 is it going to be this semester or the next ?

[ChillyWillies]

ED would like to have 2.5 out this year.

[flanker1]

please show us any caucasus effort within screenshots or video. . .

[jaxx_za]

please show us any caucasus effort within screenshots or video. . .

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2851944

[SkateZilla]

Primary Focus is Normandy,

News about other items will likely come after Normandy is Released:

 

Same Goes for the F/A-18C::

https://forums.eagle.ru/announcement.php?f=66

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

from Wags (08-09-2016): "I'll try to post some images in the coming weeks."...in two weeks I guess ;)

[ac5]

Primary Focus is Normandy,

News about other items will likely come after Normandy is Released:

 

Same Goes for the F/A-18C::

https://forums.eagle.ru/announcement.php?f=66

 

This is all very confusing...

And where will we install Normandy without the 2.5?

In 2.0 or in 1.5 :huh:????

[razo+r]

they will probably merge them or put it in 2.0

[cichlidfan]

Or v2.1

 

Or v2.5 and the merge will be v3.0

 

Speculating is pointless, it will be whatever it works out to be

[SkateZilla]

This is all very confusing...

And where will we install Normandy without the 2.5?

In 2.0 or in 1.5 :huh:????

 

2.0 Supports Multiple Theatres already.

 

That is the Primary Difference between 1.5 and 2.0,

 

1.5 Runs T3 Terrain Engine

2.0 Runs T4 Terrain Engine

Everything Else is Essentially Identical, Same Graphics Engine, etc etc,

 

2.0 has the File System, and Underlying Infrastructure to support multiple theatres in place already.

 

 

 

Normandy would Likely be Added to 2.0.

However, no official statement has been made on this yet AFAIK.

Edited February 21, 2017 by SkateZilla

[ac5]

2.0 Supports Multiple Theatres already.

 

Normandy would Likely be Added to 2.0.

However, no official statement has been made on this yet AFAIK.

 

If 2.0 Supports Multiple Theatres already,

why can't we install caucasus on it?:cry:

[cichlidfan]

If 2.0 Supports Multiple Theatres already,

why can't we install caucasus on it?:cry:

 

Because the it isn't running on T4 yet.

[ac5]

Because the it isn't running on T4 yet.

 

And Nevada and normandy and the others do?

[razo+r]

yes

[SkateZilla]

If 2.0 Supports Multiple Theatres already,

why can't we install caucasus on it?:cry:

 

Because 1.5 Caucasus is T3 and does not work on T4 (2.0).

 

Which is why Caucasus is being Re-Done.

[Airbuster]

Waiting eagerly on 2.5. It looks really phenomenal.

I hope it comes soon and I'm not buying any other theater until then, when we have single stable version (not beta, or alpha) that can support everything.

[Zzenith]

Seriously when will Open Alpha be done.

 

Don't know if I missed any news regarding a 2.5 release schedule but its getting hard to believe that I bought into the Nevada open alpha nigh on 1 year and 4 months ago or so and its still at open alpha. How much longer is it going to take ? I think I have been more than patient enough.

 

I believe that ED is juggling far too many balls at the moment with all the new modules and now the Normandy map is being pushed. I assume that the Normand map will also be released as an open alpha.

 

Well the only way I'll be buying into any new maps is if it comes with a completed version 2.5. I stopped purchasing new modules due to 2.5 taking so long and am getting a bit bored with all the recent updates focusing on Normandy new beta aircraft or module sales. I have plenty of aircraft its 2.5 I want released so any news or even speculation of the potential release date of it.

[razo+r]

It will be done when it's done and ready to publish...

 

No dates, only pointless speculations about the release of 2.5

[PMIK]

While it has been a long wait, the nevada terrain is very playable and has a number of available campaigns and missions.

 

Have you played the red flag campaigns? The F-5E aggressor campaign or MBOT's F-5E/Mig-21 dynamic campaigns? There is plenty there to tide you over until 2.5 is released.

 

Regarding the "juggling too many balls", while I am just guessing here, but I presume that ED have different teams and different people working on this terrains at different stages. For example, Normandy might have needed a lot of work from their artists but Nevada needs more work from programmers.

 

Also remember that we are going to get a free 2.5 Caucasus map update.

[Buzzles]

Nevada isn't at Open Alpha though. That's the name of the branch for testing new terrain. Nevada was just the first and is basically finished.

 

Normandy is the next to be finished, then they'll focus on the new Caucasus map. Only when the new Caucasus map is done will we get single 2.5 version, as there needs to be a free map.

 

Good news is Normandy will be out fairly shortly, considering the recent screenshot blitz, the upcoming live stream, dropping of lots of info by ED staff and Wags saying there's likely to be a 2.1 version.

[David OC]

Yep, like Buzzles said, It's just the name for testing, the map is pretty much done I guess after the last major update? What changes and the reason I see for the Alpha name is the ongoing testing and tweaking of the Edge engine, sometimes it will go backwards for a time to move forward with all the testing, tuning, optimization etc.

 

I'm ok with the labeling across the board here, DCS is at the cutting edge side of flight simming, the map is incredibility detailed, enough to fly VFR, not seen better in my travels.

 

I do get the frustration on how long things take, I still get more enjoyment flying anything in DCS compared to other sims, it's a hard niche, How many companies are left in the combat side? ED and third parties should do whatever it takes to keep going, so we get more cool toy's to play with.

 

They all must love it, the reward vs development in this niche would not be great. Less stress building Goat sims...

 

 

So, what's in store for 2017....

Well for me it will be a busy time developing our military projects, securing more military work for the year and those beyond, demonstrating our capabilities within DCS and of course showcasing DCS itself which is second-to-none when it comes to military simulators and the capabilities of the simulator that we all love flying or even driving in.

DCS itself has come on leaps and bounds with the latest installments and we can't wait to develop systems and functionality for what is yet to come <no spoilers>.

 

You will see vast improvements in technology for DCS; VR being a classic example of this and we are excited to announce some partnerships early in the New Year, so keep an eye out for announcements!!

 

Read the full post

 

 

 

Are there any details more, to share with us?

 

Say, plans to:

a) simulate penetration of several modules by a single projectile

b) introduce altered impact behavior, depended on the load (HE/AP) => surface/submerged explosions, ricochets where applicable

c) internal/external fuel tank flame bursts or varied leakage rates depended on hits number/their nature

d) hydraulic fails - drop out chassis, etc

e) stun effects on the pilot (HE "close call" impact)

f) realistic dynamics for damaged planes, including their rapid re-balancing due to pierced tanks/any massive parts departed. Inability to withstand high Gs for their frame any more (where it's appropriate)

g) inflammation that gradually affects plane

 

A digression: I'm not poking developers to do this right from the beginning in some stealthy manner - just wonder what depth are you willing to take?

 

a) Yes, including true calculation of armour-piercing ability (at least for the first 1-2 walls where experimental results are available to extend for the model). Fragmentation field patterns, etc...

b) yes

c) yes

d) hydrolics can be damaged even now, but it will work regarding its design for each plane - so there will be no undercarriage drop if the up-locks are mechanically driven. Possibly, with the new DM hydrolics will get more detailed damages, say, the pump, the left gear tubing, etc...

e) do not know yet

f) all these features work now. If the main spar is damaged - yes it will lower max G-load.

g) I remember that Racoon answered positive.

 

New damage model with images

Edited February 22, 2017 by David OC

[terminator363]

Waiting eagerly on 2.5. It looks really phenomenal.

I hope it comes soon and I'm not buying any other theater until then, when we have single stable version (not beta, or alpha) that can support everything.

Yes!

[David OC]

Waiting eagerly on 2.5. It looks really phenomenal.

I hope it comes soon and I'm not buying any other theater until then, when we have single stable version (not beta, or alpha) that can support everything.

 

Yes!

 

I get it terminator,

 

For me tho, there isn't anything else quite like this level of sim out there, DCS balances on the bleeding edge or another way "leading edge". It takes time to mature and every change can have a potential side affect on other parts of the sim and modules. Like I said before these guys must love it, I can't image how frustrating it would be sometimes for these guys trying to get this leading edge SimArt stable while adding more and more while upgrading things.

 

If their going to stick with it and keep pushing forward in this hard niche, I'll will keep backing and supporting them along the way.

[NeilWillis]

Well said David OC!

 

As for not buying any more maps until 2.5 is out Airbuster, I admire your optimism. As far as we can see here, there will be Normandy, then there will be 2.5. We'll all miss you on the Normandy multiplayer servers :music_whistling: What the other maps are you're considering not buying is puzzling me!