jeffreymg Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I am a flight instructor in North Florida and across from our hangars a pilot owns a F-5 and a L-39 and he was flying them down with another pilot to Sun and Fun yesterday. They both have been repainted and I hope that the pictures of them will attach here. Jeffg Jeffrey Gerbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 nice pics thanks for sharing:) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 noice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atcdrew Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Very cool! They look great! Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frixon28 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Does anyone know what (or where I could find) information on the operating the F5 as a private citizen. Im just wondering about monetary costs for stiff like fuel, oil, tires, insurwnce, engine rehauls etc. Would these aircraft have a high re sell value considering the very large cost you are investing into these. Any information would be highly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Does anyone know what (or where I could find) information on the operating the F5 as a private citizen. Im just wondering about monetary costs for stiff like fuel, oil, tires, insurwnce, engine rehauls etc. Would these aircraft have a high re sell value considering the very large cost you are investing into these. Any information would be highly appreciated I'd like to be your Neighbor, or Pool Boy. ;) :) would be interesting to see what the private operating costs are. Of course, how much you wish to fly, will drive it too... :pilotfly: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent90 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Does anyone know what (or where I could find) information on the operating the F5 as a private citizen. Im just wondering about monetary costs for stiff like fuel, oil, tires, insurwnce, engine rehauls etc. Would these aircraft have a high re sell value considering the very large cost you are investing into these. Any information would be highly appreciated https://www.quora.com/How-much-would-it-cost-to-privately-own-and-operate-a-MiG-21 http://jalopnik.com/maintaining-vintage-a-russian-mig-17-is-ridiculously-co-1676509391 And that is the effort for some of the most produced single-engined fighters in the world. A set of new batteries for those alone will set you back 80-90k. The costs to operate the (twin-engined) F-5 should be MUCH higher. It is like buying a second-hand supercar: the resale prices are rediculously low, but maintenance is what breaks the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 The purchase price for the aircraft depends on who you're buying them from. When the RNoAF retired our last F-5s in 2007, 15 of them were offered to a company in Texas (run by the son of a former US presidential candidate) for approximately $700.000 each. The deal fell through, but two planes (F-5Bs in very good condition) were left in Texas. When they were finally sold in 2014, Northern General Leasing LLC paid $15.000 for each of them. But the Norwegian defense logistics agency have also been selling (and I'm not making this up!) former naval vessels (MTBs and a large support vessel) to Nigerian pirates, so their sense of judgment, and thus pricing, is a bit fishy to say the least. As for operating costs: I don't have any exact numbers, but to quote luxury car dealers: "if you have to ask, you can't afford it". $3-5000 per hour is an educated guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frixon28 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Okay thanks I am looking into one day getting an L39/L29 (hopefully) and was simply curious. I hope to somehow get my hands on a static display of a MiG-21/23 and restore it too good (non-flying) condition. I've searched and read a lot on this topic of owning these jets, but sadly can't find that much material that goes into great details. Be interesting to get my hand on an F-5 in none flying condition. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocko417 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 For interest, a Canadian T-33 costs approximately 3000 Canadian dollars per hour to operate, that's one Rolls Royce Nene engine vs. two afterburning J85s, not to mention spare parts. Hawk One, a Canadair Sabre based in Quebec, Canada, has sadly been put up for sale due to high operating costs. The mind boggles at the defense spending of the Cold War era when we had 12 squadrons of Sabres overseas and another 12 twin engined jet interceptors based at home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoford Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Okay thanks I am looking into one day getting an L39/L29 (hopefully) and was simply curious. I hope to somehow get my hands on a static display of a MiG-21/23 and restore it too good (non-flying) condition. I've searched and read a lot on this topic of owning these jets, but sadly can't find that much material that goes into great details. Be interesting to get my hand on an F-5 in none flying condition. Thanks! I have heard about $1k per hour for an L39 when fuel is cheap. It burns 280gph at cruise. edit: I just checked JetA at my local airport and its $4.00 (good bit more that I assumed).. So L39 is probably between 1,500 to 2,000 an hour to operate. Edited April 21, 2017 by motoford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreymg Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 This F5 is for sale here in St Augustine Fl just down in another hangar by our school. Asking price is 1.8 Million JeffG Jeffrey Gerbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_sez Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 f-5 The purchase price for the aircraft depends on who you're buying them from. When the RNoAF retired our last F-5s in 2007, 15 of them were offered to a company in Texas (run by the son of a former US presidential candidate) for approximately $700.000 each. The deal fell through, but two planes (F-5Bs in very good condition) were left in Texas. When they were finally sold in 2014, Northern General Leasing LLC paid $15.000 for each of them. But the Norwegian defense logistics agency have also been selling (and I'm not making this up!) former naval vessels (MTBs and a large support vessel) to Nigerian pirates, so their sense of judgment, and thus pricing, is a bit fishy to say the least. As for operating costs: I don't have any exact numbers, but to quote luxury car dealers: "if you have to ask, you can't afford it". $3-5000 per hour is an educated guess. Guess ill only have 3-5 hrs of fun before my bank acc is empty..lol The "SCALES" of aeronautical performance will weigh heavily on your next move.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vander Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 All of a sudden those DCS modules seem pretty cheap don't they? :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_sez Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah for shizzel there vander..Guess im grounded.. The "SCALES" of aeronautical performance will weigh heavily on your next move.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slazi Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I would imagine fuel costs are the least of your worries. Sent from my SC-04E using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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