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Hey all,

I don't have the module yet, but I'm coming from being disappointed with the Viggen's A2A, and bored of the F15/SU27.

 

Ideally, I'm interested in using the Mirage against the most commonly used fighters in MP.

 

Do you think it holds up?

What tactics do you mostly use?

 

Ideally, I'm looking for something that is capable in A2A against the best fighters, but isn't the standard platform.

 

Cheers!

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thats because its a ground pounder :)

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I bought the M2000 but haven't flown her much. I do like the MiG-21 and F-5. But I'll have to give the M2000 a serious look. Especially if I hunt down a Helios profile for it. :-)

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It can face any aircraft currently in the game, the F15/SU-27 are a bit superior but if you use is right is can be a good fighter :).

 

You don't have to be down low to win with it, you can fly it a 25000-35000 ft were it's missiles will perform better and kick American and Russian asses ;).

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Hey all,

I don't have the module yet, but I'm coming from being disappointed with the Viggen's A2A, and bored of the F15/SU27.

 

Ideally, I'm interested in using the Mirage against the most commonly used fighters in MP.

 

Do you think it holds up?

What tactics do you mostly use?

 

Ideally, I'm looking for something that is capable in A2A against the best fighters, but isn't the standard platform.

 

Cheers!

 

It's in the sale at the moment, is on my buy list!

 

Apart from it's interceptor ability I've been looking at it's ground attack. Apparently we can use a JTAC to laze a Target and drop some GBU's. It would be nice to do that in a M+1.0 capable aircraft!:D Also we can navigate by Ins using data cartridge (like Viggen) and add waypoints (like Viggen). However we can also navigate by Tacan and VOR (unlike the Viggen).

 

Also anyone who is building a Harrier sim gets my money!:thumbup:

 

We are getting a nice historical spread of aircraft in DCS now.

 

Cheers

 

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Well M2k should fight F-15s and Su27s in 80s setting (aim7/27R/27T) as it is 80s fighter. Super 530 is best 80s missile i would say. However when its facing aim120s and ER/ETs then its outclassed. Thing which is great for mirage thats its currently only (early) 4gen fighter with full fidelity cockpit. But adding to GBU12 bombs: If u drop them with BAD INS bombing mode, then you can toss them over the mountain, which is cool;) . I think M2k is totally worth but keep in mind that its in beta and because of harrier its going to be in beta for little longer then "two weeks" i am afraid... M2k makes u learn how to effectively manage your armament and fuel. In "Git Gud" way...;)

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I would definitely recommend the mirage 2000c. It's systems are not to difficult to learn, but still offer a challenge.

F-15 and su-27 are superior when they are allowed to equip the aim-120 and r-27er respectively, but you can still do very well with the mirage. It is my go to A2A aircraft.

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Buy it. I agree with the recommendation to fly it at altitude where the 530's have better range. You will be at a BVR disadvantage against the Su-27 and F-15, but the chance to fly a clickable-pit fighter makes up for it.

 

Razbam gets an A+ for communication. They are very active on the forum and always let you know what is going on. That in itself says a lot for the Mirage 2000C. I'm undecided on some of the other 3rd party developers, but I would never worry about Razbam.


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Hey all,

I don't have the module yet, but I'm coming from being disappointed with the Viggen's A2A, and bored of the F15/SU27.

 

Ideally, I'm interested in using the Mirage against the most commonly used fighters in MP.

 

Do you think it holds up?

What tactics do you mostly use?

 

Ideally, I'm looking for something that is capable in A2A against the best fighters, but isn't the standard platform.

 

Cheers!

 

From the bottom of my heart - GO FOR IT DUDE!!! :thumbup:

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I'm not very good at high altitude with the M2000C versus F15C or SU27 (I'm still a beginner with the M2000C). I prefer low altitude and sneaky attack.

 

It is slightly more complicated than FC3 aircrafts but at the end you will really enjoy to fight with this plane.

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Well M2k should fight F-15s and Su27s in 80s setting (aim7/27R/27T) as it is 80s fighter. Super 530 is best 80s missile i would say. However when its facing aim120s and ER/ETs then its outclassed. Thing which is great for mirage thats its currently only (early) 4gen fighter with full fidelity cockpit. But adding to GBU12 bombs: If u drop them with BAD INS bombing mode, then you can toss them over the mountain, which is cool;) . I think M2k is totally worth but keep in mind that its in beta and because of harrier its going to be in beta for little longer then "two weeks" i am afraid... M2k makes u learn how to effectively manage your armament and fuel. In "Git Gud" way...;)

 

I wouldn't agree more that whats above :thumbup:

 

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Highly recommended module. Go for it. Don't worry about BVR against Eagle or Flanker, its just a matter of practices. I've seen several pilots doing amazing things (for me) in BVR, killing dozen of Eagles and Flankers in MP without single lost.

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There are so many videos on YouTube demonstrating the Mirage in multiplayer A2A combat successfully. Check those out.

 

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Hey all,

I don't have the module yet, but I'm coming from being disappointed with the Viggen's A2A, and bored of the F15/SU27.

 

Ideally, I'm interested in using the Mirage against the most commonly used fighters in MP.

 

Do you think it holds up?

What tactics do you mostly use?

 

Ideally, I'm looking for something that is capable in A2A against the best fighters, but isn't the standard platform.

 

Cheers!

 

 

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i liked it so much that i want to buy it on this easter sales :S.

 

sadly, i already bought it... so i cannot make me happy buying it :/

 

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All modules are excellently modded and presentable so far so good.......!

Cannot wait for the F/A 18 module as I guess that would be the best fighter by far!<just my opinion>

 

cant wait for it too! will be the dream... unfortunately, its the C version :(. A double seat version would be the best things that could happened to me.

 

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Buy it. Learn it's systems. Enjoy the campaign. (One of the best out there). You will love this plane in A2A. It's a purebred interceptor.

 

Don't expect miracles against the bigger FC3 planes, however used smartly this plane can be a very big threat and it is an enjoyable and exhilirating ride. Within visual range it can also pull some pretty crazy stunts to bring its heaters to bear.

 

This is not brought up much, but I actually prefer it's radar systems over any of the big birds. Very intuitive and easy to use, the IFF system is almost idiot proof. (Unless you forget to turn it on). The TWS is very useful for semi-stealthy S530 launches, and the HUD is clear, presentable and uncluttered, the RWR is as good or better than the F15C's.

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You don't have to be down low to win with it, you can fly it a 25000-35000 ft were it's missiles will perform better and kick American and Russian asses ;).

 

I have a perfect tacview where you and me prove the opposite, man ;) you go head on vs flanker at high alt and get killed while I sneak low and kill two :) I'll upload it soon

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I have a perfect tacview where you and me prove the opposite, man ;) you go head on vs flanker at high alt and get killed while I sneak low and kill two :) I'll upload it soon

 

Nice tactics to sacrifice a wingman to win the battle XD

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