How do you take notes during the flight?

[captain_kuwait]

Hello,

 

i was wondering how do you take notes during a flight in vr ? For Example 9line from jtac, Taxi runways when Communicating with ground control.

 

I tried to look through the small opening in the oculus but it is very hard for me to take proper note or write something down. I can barely See anything.

 

And advice on writing something down while in vr?

 

Best regards

[Boris]

Yes, this is indeed one of the drawbacks of VR. I see no solution to this. It's just hard to take notes when you're practically blind.

[NeilWillis]

I tend to just enter the info as it is received. The CDU can be set up in readiness before you make a call, and the data punched straight in. This usually means setting up a waypoint, naming it, so you are all ready to simply enter the grid reference or L/L co-ordinates directly.

 

Runway headings can simply be dialled in on your HSI course needle if you have trouble remembering them.

 

I also keep a kneeboard page loaded with mission details so they can be referred to easily too.

 

With a little imagination, you can cope easily.

[33-DFTC]

Yes, this is indeed one of the drawbacks of VR. I see no solution to this. It's just hard to take notes when you're practically blind.

 

An elegant solution could be to develop a VR headset with AR capability. With a press of a button on the side of the headset, we could switch from the VR to the AR and see "through" the headset while retaining some information on front of us (altitude, speed, threat, etc. ...).

 

Of course it would required some serious work from ED to implement this kind of option in the game. As for now I do not see this possible as we barely have a VR experience optimized.

[Mule]

An elegant solution could be to develop a VR headset with AR capability. With a press of a button on the side of the headset, we could switch from the VR to the AR and see "through" the headset while retaining some information on front of us (altitude, speed, threat, etc. ...).

 

Of course it would required some serious work from ED to implement this kind of option in the game. As for now I do not see this possible as we barely have a VR experience optimized.

 

That really would be very cool. :thumbup:

[Pipeorgan]

Hello,

 

i was wondering how do you take notes during a flight in vr ? For Example 9line from jtac, Taxi runways when Communicating with ground control.

 

I tried to look through the small opening in the oculus but it is very hard for me to take proper note or write something down. I can barely See anything.

 

And advice on writing something down while in vr?

 

Best regards

 

I have both an iPhone and iPad and can write and draw with my finger on the screens so if this content could then be displayed on the DCS kneeboard we are in business.

[Ekim]

Or maybe ED could make a new white page on the kneeboard allowing to write and delete text via keyboard.

[VooDoo-S8]

I have the same issue, as said before it's just one of the drawbacks of vr..

 

What I would personally like was if the 9 lines and pertinent comms were somehow automatically added to a blank kneeboard page. That way my terrible memory could cope!

[btaft]

Or have one of the pages on the kneeboard be a log of all communications....kind of like FSX/P3D does with ATC comms. That way you can scroll back

[fitness88]

An elegant solution could be to develop a VR headset with AR capability. With a press of a button on the side of the headset, we could switch from the VR to the AR and see "through" the headset while retaining some information on front of us (altitude, speed, threat, etc. ...).

 

Of course it would required some serious work from ED to implement this kind of option in the game. As for now I do not see this possible as we barely have a VR experience optimized.

 

 

 

I believe Vive has a camera built into it that allows you to see into the real world.

[AMEDooley]

I just flip my rift up and I have plenty of space to see what I'm writing. Of course I'm writing on a kneeboard not on a desk so it's in perfect veiw for me.

[33-DFTC]

I believe Vive has a camera built into it that allows you to see into the real world.

 

Never heard of that, this would be a great feature. However I must agree with btaft who gave the best solution yet IMO.

 

Or have one of the pages on the kneeboard be a log of all communications....kind of like FSX/P3D does with ATC comms. That way you can scroll back

[captain_kuwait]

Thx all for your Input :). Maybe i try a real kneeboard. Maybe that is easier than writing on my desk

[Magnanimous]

I really think that expanding the kneeboard functionality is the key to fixing this little problem in VR. I would imagine as a greater proportion of the community naturally turns to headsets as the only way to play DCS-- and it is, that this will develop.

 

 

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[PreussLee]

The vive has a camera yes, but its kinda different then you would expect...its not a normal video picture you get, but more like an infrared view, though its not ir but some other technique...So, you can see an object like your desk or couch through the camera, but not the details like the keys on the keyboard or such...It's difficult to describe for me, I hope you get what I mean lol...

[hansangb]

The vive has a camera yes, but its kinda different then you would expect...its not a normal video picture you get, but more like an infrared view, though its not ir but some other technique...So, you can see an object like your desk or couch through the camera, but not the details like the keys on the keyboard or such...It's difficult to describe for me, I hope you get what I mean lol...

 

 

Watch the movie Predator. You'll see it first hand. :D

[cichlidfan]

Or have one of the pages on the kneeboard be a log of all communications....kind of like FSX/P3D does with ATC comms. That way you can scroll back

 

This is the correct solution and it should be very easy to implement.

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EDIT: I should add that this would be a useful feature even for those who are not using a VR headset.

Edited April 30, 2017 by cichlidfan

[Astronut]

That would work well. Personally I have not had a big problem looking through the nose gap to take notes, but I guess that isn't possible for everyone due to the fact that no two faces are identical.

[VZ_342]

Never worn a VR headset, but it seems like a narrow (like 1/4"-1/2") clear panel on the bottom edge of the headset, with a panel cover that can flip up/down, would work to provide momentary real-world vision.

 

Or something like that.

[O_KiwiMatt]

If you can type on a keyboard without looking (I can .. sort of :) ) then have a look at OVRDrop in Steam (was called OVROverlay beforegoing to steam). It overlays any window or display in the VR. Looking at the minimized overlay will maximize it (can be customized to location and size in the headset). So you could have notepad running as an overlay. I use it to see my second display if I am streaming or want access to an application / file while in DCS. Not sure if this is available for the Rift but works very well in the Vive.

[GIJoe]

Or have one of the pages on the kneeboard be a log of all communications....kind of like FSX/P3D does with ATC comms. That way you can scroll back

 

 

This is the correct solution and it should be very easy to implement.

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EDIT: I should add that this would be a useful feature even for those who are not using a VR headset.

 

+2 for this solution!!

[SPAS79]

If you can type on a keyboard without looking (I can .. sort of :) ) then have a look at OVRDrop in Steam

 

Yes it is available with the rift, seems like some games do work if set in compatibility for Win7 (E:D used to work with it when OVRDrop was in beta) but I had no luck so far in DCS. Putting it in Windows7 mode makes VR non-usable for some reason...

[WisMan]

Or have one of the pages on the kneeboard be a log of all communications....kind of like FSX/P3D does with ATC comms. That way you can scroll back

 

I couldn't believe this wasn't a standard feature when i first started with DCS. Some of the campaign missions if you miss the cords first go you are SOL. Directly adding them in is especially difficult with the L/L format when you had to add in 2 stings of numbers (at least in the A10).

 

Other option would be a request to replay last message, but the log just seems so obvious.

[TheSilkMan]

Actually, the best way for ed to implement this would be to add a page on the kneeboard which autopopulates the abbreviated details of the 9-line briefing automatically to the page as it is spoken. Then, you can reference it in written form in VR by glancing at your knee pad.

[HiJack]

Or have one of the pages on the kneeboard be a log of all communications....kind of like FSX/P3D does with ATC comms. That way you can scroll back

 

That is the solution. :thumbup: