Future of the NTTR map?

[VTJS17_Fire]

Hi,

 

from the latest mudspike preview:

With the release of Normandy at the end of May, Eagle Dynamics is shifting resources to complete the Caucasus map update for DCS World 2.5, and will then return to the Strait of Hormuz map to support the Hornet. If there are any updates to be made to Normandy 1944, we likely won’t see them in the near future.

That's great to read. I'm looking forward to the new caucasus and SoH map.

 

But Wags said in the past, that for the NTTR map there is also planned, to update and extend the map to the west southern corner, including the Naval Air Station and some other spots.

 

Any news on this or is the NTTR map with its current status finalized?

 

 

kind regards,

Fire

[USSInchon]

I don't think China Lake was ever mentioned by Wags, but rather a plausible wishlist items from us. I think the only place that was left to be added down the road was the NTC area of Fort Irwin to accommodate Green Flag operations.

[AMEDooley]

I too thought I heard something about NAS Fallon being added. Would make sense with the Hornet and Tomcat on the horizon

[VTJS17_Fire]

I too thought I heard something about NAS Fallon being added. Would make sense with the Hornet and Tomcat on the horizon

Yep. I think, it was in a newsletter in the mid of the last year.

[NineLine]

I too thought I heard something about NAS Fallon being added. Would make sense with the Hornet and Tomcat on the horizon

 

It was never planned, they said that it would be nice to add one day, but the map is complete as is, and no firm future plans to change it right now, they would rather move on to future maps.

[Cavemanhead]

Okay, so the discussion seems to be about map size. What about graphical features and lighting, etc... Are they done? I thought the map itself was still Alpha/Beta...

[NineLine]

Okay, so the discussion seems to be about map size. What about graphical features and lighting, etc... Are they done? I thought the map itself was still Alpha/Beta...

 

Lighting and graphical updates would fall under the core of the game.

[rrohde]

They also mentioned additional casinos to be added as well if I remember correctly.

 

Not to mention - road bridges have no supporting pillars (railroad bridges do, however). Stuff like that feels a little half-baked, to be honest. But hey - fun map, great performance. :)

[ebabil]

coverage of the map is ok but quality of the rest of the content should be improved.

[NineLine]

coverage of the map is ok but quality of the rest of the content should be improved.

 

The map is done, they are moving forward towards the Caucasus update and SoH and beyond, dont expect much more out of the NTTR map beyond bug fixes.

[BuzzU]

The map is done, they are moving forward towards the Caucasus update and SoH and beyond, dont expect much more out of the NTTR map beyond bug fixes.

 

With all this going on. What's your best guess for the P-47?

[Cavemanhead]

The map is done, they are moving forward towards the Caucasus update and SoH and beyond, dont expect much more out of the NTTR map beyond bug fixes.

 

I think NTTR looks wonderful but it still looks like it could be improved in some areas - to tweak out the wonderful base structure that's there...

 

My dream is that an ORBX style company that specializes in scenery can chase behind the already great maps and improve them to perfection! That would be wonderful.

[nrgized]

The map is done, they are moving forward towards the Caucasus update and SoH and beyond, dont expect much more out of the NTTR map beyond bug fixes.

 

Then that is a huge disappointment as the quality of NTTR leaves a lot to be desired.

 

• Its barren in relation to desert foliage. Fly around google maps and you'd think NTTR is the moon.
  
• The map textures are only some what passable as decent quality when viewed at medium+ altitudes.
  
• Compared to Normandy its a C- and will only be exasperated when Caucasus gets updated.
  

[CrashO]

I would love to see the map extended to include Edwards AFB. Wich at the moment lies just beyond the edge of the "detailed" map. But chances of adding it are probably small. :cry:

[NineLine]

Then that is a huge disappointment as the quality of NTTR leaves a lot to be desired.

 

• Its barren in relation to desert foliage. Fly around google maps and you'd think NTTR is the moon.
  
• The map textures are only some what passable as decent quality when viewed at medium+ altitudes.
  
• Compared to Normandy its a C- and will only be exasperated when Caucasus gets updated.
  

 

As I pointed out a number of times elsewhere, there is a known clipmap issue causing texture quality to be lower than it should be.

 

Its fixed internally, so with that, and the new lighting that is seen with the Normandy Alpha I challenge anyone to show off a better looking Flight Sim map (besides Normandy as its just a nicer area than Vegas and all that sand) than that... That is rhetorical by the way, I know the answer...

 

 

Honestly they only time I have seen the moon looking that good is on the show Ancient Aliens.... you know with all the secret alien, nazi and CIA bases up there

Edited May 6, 2017 by NineLine

[Ghostrider142]

I don't think China Lake was ever mentioned by Wags, but rather a plausible wishlist items from us. I think the only place that was left to be added down the road was the NTC area of Fort Irwin to accommodate Green Flag operations.

 

Just the idea of being back at NTC, even virtually, made me feel the need to turn on my A/C :fear:

 

I like the idea of the Caucasus getting the Normandy lighting.

 

Btw, are the Tomcat and Hornet each coming with a map?

[NineLine]

Just the idea of being back at NTC, even virtually, made me feel the need to turn on my A/C :fear:

 

I like the idea of the Caucasus getting the Normandy lighting.

 

Btw, are the Tomcat and Hornet each coming with a map?

 

Maps will be separate purchases, aside from the bundle sales ED likes to have. SoH is meant to compliment the Hornet though. Will do the same for the Tomcat I imagine, but that is a 3rd Party module.

[Torso]

As I pointed out a number of times elsewhere, there is a known clipmap issue causing texture quality to be lower than it should be.

 

Its fixed internally

 

 

Yes, we have heard this posted before by you. The question is, when will it be fixed EXTERNALLY?

 

 

When will the actual user base see this fix so our map does not look like it does presently with low lod? Is there an actual deployment plan to put all the Normandy map lighting improvements AND this clipmap fix that is enjoyed internally but not by the actual users/buyers of NTTR presently? You said "the map is done, expect no more from it", yet it still says early access in the store.

 

 

Shouldn't that be changed then to something else?

[NineLine]

It will be early access till the release version can handle multiple maps, you have to wait for the merge. I would assume the next update to 2.0 will bring the clipmap fixes, but you need to watch the patch notes for it.

[hellking]

To be honest, I am looking forward to the clipmap fix more than any other new map. When I purchase new maps I would like to feel like I will be getting good quality and ED won't be switching to other products without finishing existing in due time.. I understand that these issues happen in alpha, but if the clipmap issue is carried to beta it will be major disappointment..

[Gunny Highway]

From what I understand, the release of normandy will be in a version 2.1. This 2.1 version will have the lighting updates as part of the core game, and be able to run both normandy and NTTR. I would hope the clip map issue would be integrated as well. But for sure the lighting improvements, which are a graphics engine update, will come to any map running on 2.1.

[AMEDooley]

It was never planned, they said that it would be nice to add one day, but the map is complete as is, and no firm future plans to change it right now, they would rather move on to future maps.

 

Sorry Sith about that. I couldn't remember if t was a wish list or something Wags had said.

 

Having said that though Fallon would be a nice touch!

[Wags]

From what I understand, the release of normandy will be in a version 2.1. This 2.1 version will have the lighting updates as part of the core game, and be able to run both normandy and NTTR. I would hope the clip map issue would be integrated as well. But for sure the lighting improvements, which are a graphics engine update, will come to any map running on 2.1.

 

Correct. We are now testing the 2.1 version with Normandy and NTTR maps and the clip map issue for the NTTR map is resolved. Thank you for your patience.

[Wags]

Sorry Sith about that. I couldn't remember if t was a wish list or something Wags had said.

 

Having said that though Fallon would be a nice touch!

 

Yes, I think it was just my personal wish list thoughts duing an informal live stream one weekend.

 

All official features that we commit to are listed here:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/terrains/nttr_terrain/

[REDEYE_CVW-66]

Will the lighting/shader effects from Normandy "spill over" to the NTTR on the 2.1 release?