Pochi Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Hello, I am trying hard to get a proper High Drag bombs delivery using the training mission. I can not get the symbology to display in the HUD properly. If flying level with right parameters, M0.85 and 130 m AGL, HUD remains blank. It seems I can get the circle and dot to display if I push forward a bit or if I fly as low as 100 m. How do you guys deliver the HD bombs? Am I doing something wrong? I request some help there, Best regards, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerO_crash Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) Did you adjust target´s QFE? If you don`t give correct QFE value on your main altimeter, you won`t get a proper drop solution. Edited May 8, 2017 by zerO_crash [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pochi Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 I did, just as the tutorial asks me to do : Set 1012 if I remember well. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoen Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 You're flying too high for that speed. Ccip pipper is below the hud. Those bombs have a lot of drag. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pochi Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 ok, so I need to fly below 100m AGL even if manual says between 100 and 150 m? Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Or fly faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPIKEN Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Pochi, After some experimenting, I found the symbology - You have to have the HUD in its lower position and the SLAV SI switch= FRAN (in its left position - not mentioned in the training session, I believe) and as said abv. you have to fly really low to find the symbology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaaw Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) Pochi, After some experimenting, I found the symbology - You have to have the HUD in its lower position and the SLAV SI switch= FRAN (in its left position - not mentioned in the training session, I believe) and as said abv. you have to fly really low to find the symbology number one reason for a blank hud is the speed, you can get the hud piper also when you are higher if you are much faster.... if you dont see anything in your HUD you are propably to slow. Lower position on the Hud helps a lot, but i dont need it at all if the speed is high Edited May 8, 2017 by whaaw SFMBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pochi Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Thanks for the advices, Flying lower than 100 m seems really low to me, but I don't know how it was done in real life. Also I doubt that flying faster than M0.9 is realistic. Never heard of ground deliveries at speed so close to M1.0 or faster. But once again I am no expert^^ I will try with SLAVE SI switch in FrAN then, Best regards, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Wasn't the QFE given in that tutorial mission incorrect? Hardware: Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Hotas Cougar, Slaw Rudder, Wheel Stand Pro, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pochi Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Flying 80 m AGL and M0.9 with SLAVE SI to FRAN I managed to get the symbology displayed at the bottom of the HUD and deliver the bombs. However the time line still remains well below HUD frame. I need to raise the seat to see it and it is not very conveniant to fly at the same time with such unatural point of view. The time line was flashing, I wonder what it mean? Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoen Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 You must fly lower. 80m is still high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafuasu Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 try to deliver the boms with mach .7 and not over 50 meter AGL. this is the natural behaviour for the viggen and the use of CCIP. this aircraft ist designed to fly low and fast. and the high drag boms detonate when you are gone away. btw, the time line is not necessary. stay in NAV mode, pull trigger once for unsafe and aim the target between the greater and the smaller circle. if it reach the greater circle pull and hold the trigger to release the boms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pochi Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Hi, sorry to bring up such an old post but I started playing again with the Viggen in DCS2.5 and I still struggle to find the correct profile for a good M71 HD release. I now use the training missions pack available in the user files for training CCIP delivery. I am able to see the correct symbology but I keep seeing that the timeline bar is always flashing when the release symbology is over the target. If I refer to the manual, it seems it means that the bombs drop time is inferior to the required arming time. As such, it is a invalid release for me ( even if the bombs release). Am I the only one to think that a timeline should not be flashing during the release or did I misunderstand the manual? Following above advices I was flying 60-70 m AGL at M0.85 during the release. Also, when releasing as low as 60 m AGL, it seems my bombs are falling short of the target even if I press the release button when the dot and circle are on the target. I am starting to wonder if there is something wrong with M71HD CCIP delivery in the game... Any pro got an insight about that? Best regards, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhunter Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Is your QFE set correctly? Also from page 301 of the manual: "The distance line does not indicate distance to the target, but whether the bomb will be released within their arming time (5.2 seconds)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 60m AGL is too low, standard delivery is around 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veenee Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 have a look here: So many modules, so little time... www.mikphotography.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarossa Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Is Trigger safety in ON position? My Specs: Win 10 64bit, i7-8700K @ 3,7GHz, 32 GB, GTX 1080 Ti, 500GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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