ED Team Yo-Yo Posted June 6, 2017 ED Team Share Posted June 6, 2017 We are going to add its accurate ballistics for WWII AAA. Unfortunately, I could not find range tables (firing tables) for British Bofors. Gentlemen, could somebody visit IWM (I think, in London) and make photos of http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1504003019 Hope, IWM has the same liberal public policy as NA... :) 1 Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Yo-Yo, a question, plan add realistic sights / Fire control to AAA WW2 on Combined Arms? To search additional info if you require them. More news to the front My Rig: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Eight-Core 3.60 GHz / Crosshair VI Hero / Corsair H115i / 48 GB DDR4 RAM Vergance RGB Pro / GTX-1080 8 GB RAM / HD 1Tb / SSD 2Tb/2x1Tb / Warthog / 2 MDF / TFPR / Track Ir V / Logitech G633 DCS: Roadmap (unofficial): https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=116893 DCS: List of Vacant models: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4076891#post4076891 Silver_Dragon Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 What do you need exactly? I work in Waterloo and could go there after work tomorrow. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 6, 2017 ED Team Share Posted June 6, 2017 What do you need exactly? I work in Waterloo and could go there after work tomorrow. He linked the document in his post, he is wanting a copy of it. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted June 6, 2017 Author ED Team Share Posted June 6, 2017 Yo-Yo, a question, plan add realistic sights / Fire control to AAA WW2 on Combined Arms? To search additional info if you require them. The fire control calculations will be done firstly for 88 mm regarding common rules existed in 40' for AAA calculators. It presumes constant speed and altitude hypothesis a for the predictor, like in Sperry device copied by Russians :) If we have the original Flak 88 mm manual (better in English :) ) we will correct the math if necessary. Generally, the mechanical comutational device use slant range and angles from the optical director, then it goes to the non-linear eqations solution device to compute the point of impact and the necessary guns aiming. If you mean real player's interface... we are thinking about it. For example, the director can be modelled as in CA, and the only function of the player is to hold the cross at the target and... measure the distance. :) If you remember that the range finder was STEREOSCOPIC :), I would like to get ideas how to realise it in the sim... :) VR? :) Anyway, 40 mm Bofors gunsight will be done if we have detailed info about it. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel4y Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) I dont have a range table, but maybe drag coefficients help as well. Edited June 6, 2017 by rel4y 1 Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 If you mean real player's interface... we are thinking about it. For example, the director can be modelled as in CA, and the only function of the player is to hold the cross at the target and... measure the distance. :) If you remember that the range finder was STEREOSCOPIC :), I would like to get ideas how to realise it in the sim... :) VR? :) Anyway, 40 mm Bofors gunsight will be done if we have detailed info about it. Not bat a Stereoscopic sight to ships..... about 40 mm Bofords. I found the TM 9-252 manual, the sight has show on the page https://archive.org/details/TM9-252 https://archive.hnsa.org/doc/boforstm252/index.htm the Sight has here, with some variants, and ammunition. https://archive.hnsa.org/doc/boforstm252/part4a.htm#pg187 Has very interesting manuals about AAA procedure, tactics and range used on US-ARMY (and some naval guns) http://www.easy39th.com/manuals.php Check FM 10-110/-111/-112/-115/-117/-125/-130/-155 and FM 11-22 about Spotters and Air Warning About Weapons, amunitions and Sights http://www.easy39th.com/manuals2.php TM 9-227/-235/-1900/-1901/-2200 More news to the front My Rig: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Eight-Core 3.60 GHz / Crosshair VI Hero / Corsair H115i / 48 GB DDR4 RAM Vergance RGB Pro / GTX-1080 8 GB RAM / HD 1Tb / SSD 2Tb/2x1Tb / Warthog / 2 MDF / TFPR / Track Ir V / Logitech G633 DCS: Roadmap (unofficial): https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=116893 DCS: List of Vacant models: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4076891#post4076891 Silver_Dragon Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 What do you need exactly? I work in Waterloo and could go there after work tomorrow. Make it happen Joey! The community needs you! :) 1 Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basco1 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 +1 Yes,well done Joey,top man 1 Chillblast Fusion Cirrus 2 FS Pc/Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake CPU/Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1070 G1 8GB/Seagate 2TB FireCuda SSHD/16GB DDR4 2133MHz Memory/Asus STRIX Z270F Gaming Motherboard/Corsair Hydro Series H80i GT Liquid Cooler/TM Warthog with Sahaj 15cm Extension/MFG Crosswind V2 Pedals/Saitek Cessna Trim Wheel & Throttle Quadrants/TrackiR4/Windows 10 Home/Sense of humour,I find it comes in handy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted June 6, 2017 Author ED Team Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 rel4y Oh, thanks! But it's interesting to know if this document contains the Kd definition or example of use, because there can be possible differencies in Russian and American terms of using it. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel4y Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Tried to PM you. I have uploaded the PDF, which contains around 10 pages of variable declaration and formulas. Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Will check this thread during work tomorrow. IF you haven't got what you need by half 3 I'll pop round after work. EDIT: if need be I'll buy the book if I can't take pics of the page... Edited June 6, 2017 by joey45 1 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Is this still being needed? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2017 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2017 Is this still being needed? I am pretty sure, yes. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Cool. I'm pretty close to IWM now. on ma mobile The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2017 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2017 Cool. I'm pretty close to IWM now. on ma mobile Very cool, have fun. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I ask and they searched but we couldn't find anything... Got some pretty good photos tho... on ma mobile The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2017 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2017 I ask and they searched but we couldn't find anything... Got some pretty good photos tho... on ma mobile They couldnt find the reference Yo-Yo gave? http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1504003019 Maybe its at another of their locations? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Yup. There's one at Duxford on ma mobile The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2017 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2017 Yup. There's one at Duxford on ma mobile Cool, you would think TFC could send someone over there :D Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted June 7, 2017 Author ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2017 If it's in Duxford it's much better :) Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2017 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2017 If it's in Duxford it's much better :) Another excuse for you to make the trip again :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 The gun is... The info is another matter... But if you need anything else from IWM London do not hesitate to ask.. 1 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojanim Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 The fire control calculations will be done firstly for 88 mm regarding common rules existed in 40' for AAA calculators. It presumes constant speed and altitude hypothesis a for the predictor, like in Sperry device copied by Russians :) If we have the original Flak 88 mm manual (better in English :) ) we will correct the math if necessary. Generally, the mechanical comutational device use slant range and angles from the optical director, then it goes to the non-linear eqations solution device to compute the point of impact and the necessary guns aiming. If you mean real player's interface... we are thinking about it. For example, the director can be modelled as in CA, and the only function of the player is to hold the cross at the target and... measure the distance. :) If you remember that the range finder was STEREOSCOPIC :), I would like to get ideas how to realise it in the sim... :) VR? :) Anyway, 40 mm Bofors gunsight will be done if we have detailed info about it. Don't know if this helps, but if you need an english technical manual for the german 88m Flak you can find it here: https://archive.org/details/TmE9-369a-nsia wishlist: HH-60G Pave Hawk, MH-60R Sea Hawk, UH-60L Black Hawk, NH90, Super (Sea) Lynx / Mk.88, ME: A placeable animated LSE/marshaller for individual created FARPs Apache beware of the Sikorsky Armed Black Hawk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escaner Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 They have a copy service: https://iwm.altarama.com/reft100.aspx?key=Ref_copy2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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