Mogster Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) So you get a months free of everything each year? I’m sure ED have market research to back up this decision but it does seem like a lot to give away. It’s refusing cash for those impulse purchases… Didn’t Matt W say that the modal time of use of a DCS module was 10 minutes? That’s a heck of a lot of people buying then never really getting beyond their first flight, now they can put their toe in the water without buying. At least no one with a flight stick has an excuse for not installing DCS and giving whatever takes their fancy a try now. Edited June 11, 2021 by Mogster 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 15 hours ago, Flia said: Stable branch ? What is it ? It is where ponies are literally jailed. So nothing for me. I prefer Open Clear Skies... and Open Beta 13 hours ago, Gierasimov said: Su-27S Flanker?!?! Innit? I mean they never called the FC3 thing Su-27S officially even though (or I didn't see it) that's the one we've always had... anyway, we've had that highlighting of existing FC3 modules as single things in newsletters more than once in the past. 12 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-27 That article could be better, it doesn't even mention a Su-27S, just the T-10S prototype. The German one says it's basically the same as the Su-27P (where the P usually is omitted) which was the initial interceptor/fighter variant, but with added capabilities for unguided bombs and rockets, entering service in 1985. I think the main source of that article is Andy Gröning: Su-27. Motorbuch, Stuttgart 2017, ISBN 978-3-613-03951-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toutenglisse Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mogster said: ... now they can put their toe in the water without buying.... On the other hand, 6 months with no access to a module you came to highly appreciate is not a great "deal", even for free BTW it's very generous. Thanks E.D. team ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleader Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) So this only applies to total newcomers that don't own any modules? I'm unable to download any 'free' modules that I don't already own in the module manager, it still says 'buy' for all of them. Is this only for Stable branch or something? EDIT: Had to search for the solution (why ED? Why make it complicated?), but see that you have to login at the website first and then attach it to your account, which is NOT the way the free trials have been in the past. Edited June 11, 2021 by aleader "I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer." - Michael Bluth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, Eldur said: Innit? I mean they never called the FC3 thing Su-27S officially even though (or I didn't see it) that's the one we've always had... anyway, we've had that highlighting of existing FC3 modules as single things in newsletters more than once in the past. Yeah, that's on ED for maybe being a bit lazy with how the name things. In any case, we have the first production Su-27, which domestically is known as the Su-27S - at least from what I can find. Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schurem Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Yeah, s for seria or production version. After that came Su-27SM serie modernisatsia, modernised. Etc. Anyway. Congratulations ED on the new marketing model. Its incredibly generous and I hope and guess it's going to lead to great sales conversion. Good job. Smart move. Bold one too. A far cry from the days of StarForce, no? 2 I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rss0900 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 aleader can you provide a link on where you found instructions, have the same questions and see no where to link anything to an account. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 So this only applies to total newcomers that don't own any modules? I'm unable to download any 'free' modules that I don't already own in the module manager, it still says 'buy' for all of them. Is this only for Stable branch or something? EDIT: Had to search for the solution (why ED? Why make it complicated?), but see that you have to login at the website first and then attach it to your account, which is NOT the way the free trials have been in the past.I guess they do it this way make sure you enable the correct module to try out. Instead of having a bunch idiots downloading everything they don't own, and complain they have to wait another six months months to do it again because they didn't get to try them out the way they wanted too. And it also makes it easier to try out the modules on the map the modules seems fit. Don't you think? Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk aleader can you provide a link on where you found instructions, have the same questions and see no where to link anything to an account. Thanks What do you mean?You want to link you're Steam account?Just login to ED website, enter profile, should be there.Hope this helps. Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearmandriver Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Knock-Knock said: Well Im guessing new modules will fall under this too, so try the Hind, Apache etc, before buying. So can give it a go and see if the given state of EA meets personal requirements, and then try again in 6 months later if it didnt, and see how it is then. Not only nice for us all to be able to try out new releases, but this will absolutely encourage more people to try DCS in the first place, which means a larger playerbase, and that should benefit us all too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Excellent business decision ED . Transparent & honest "try before you buy", can't get any better than this! 3 i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 EDIT: Seems I posted this in the wrong thread. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gierasimov Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, MAXsenna said: Yep. Going down. Intel i7-13700KF :: ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 :: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Yep. Going down.Forgot the tekst. Yesterday's video. About 4:10.So since ED has "declined" it. Will HB do it? One of their secret aircraft? Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gierasimov Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Forgot the tekst. Yesterday's video. About 4:10. So since ED has "declined" it. Will HB do it? One of their secret aircraft? Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Nope. As you see, it's going down, the jockey ejected. Sorry. 9 hours ago, aleader said: So this only applies to total newcomers that don't own any modules? I'm unable to download any 'free' modules that I don't already own in the module manager, it still says 'buy' for all of them. Is this only for Stable branch or something? EDIT: Had to search for the solution (why ED? Why make it complicated?), but see that you have to login at the website first and then attach it to your account, which is NOT the way the free trials have been in the past. Actually the link in the newsletter takes you exactly to the trial license page of your ED website account. http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/personal/licensing/trial/ Edited June 12, 2021 by Gierasimov Intel i7-13700KF :: ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 :: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Actually the link in the newsletter takes you exactly to the trial license page of your ED website account.Haha! Yeah, the pixel pilot. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleader Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 19 hours ago, MAXsenna said: I guess they do it this way make sure you enable the correct module to try out. Instead of having a bunch idiots downloading everything they don't own, and complain they have to wait another six months months to do it again because they didn't get to try them out the way they wanted too. And it also makes it easier to try out the modules on the map the modules seems fit. Don't you think? Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk What do you mean? You want to link you're Steam account? Just login to ED website, enter profile, should be there. Hope this helps. Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk The usual flight-simmer snark isn't necessary, unless it's a language barrier thing? Calling newcomers 'a bunch of idiots' is why a lot of people despise the flight sim/wargame community. Lighten up, it's a game. It IS NOT easy to find the instructions on the Steam website (ZERO mention of it in the newsletter), and not everyone goes to the homepage of the website as it is often NOT updated (and yah, I've been around a while). I found it in the forums, but only by searching the threads as there is no sticky that doesn't require you to guess which page the latest newsletter is on. Now, having gone to the homepage I see it takes you directly to the place you need to go (for once). 12 hours ago, Gierasimov said: Actually the link in the newsletter takes you exactly to the trial license page of your ED website account. http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/personal/licensing/trial/ Yes, as I say above, on the website. I think people here seem to forget or discount the fact that the Steam community is far bigger and many go there for their information. The Steam newsletter doesn't say anything about how to get the trial, look it up. 12 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Haha! Yeah, the pixel pilot. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Is this some inside nerd-joke or something? I don't get it... "I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer." - Michael Bluth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Is this some inside nerd-joke or something? I don't get it...1. I was not referring to newbies.2. I somehow/or the new forum quoted the wrong text. Didn't notice before now. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, aleader said: I think people here seem to forget or discount the fact that the Steam community is far bigger and many go there for their information. The Steam newsletter doesn't say anything about how to get the trial, look it up. Wonder where you got that fact that the Steam DCS community is far bigger, I've never seen any statistics from ED disclosing that type of information. I understand that this new trial is not for the Steam version of DCS, so it makes sense that it is not mentioned on the Steam newsletter. 4 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 8:51 AM, MAXsenna said: Forgot the tekst. Yesterday's video. About 4:10. So since ED has "declined" it. Will HB do it? One of their secret aircraft? I rewatched all of them released within the last week around that timestamp (like +-30s), that shot you posted was nowhere to be found. Which one actually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Eldur said: Which one actually? https://youtu.be/hQ5T8P1qJGs?t=178 1 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M HOTAS FC3, F-14A/B, F-15E CA SC NTTR, PG, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Now I see why, completely different timestamp Hurts to see that... must have missed it when watching that trailer the first time(s). Well, my hope always was on Heatblur on that thing. And it still is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleader Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 3:47 PM, Rudel_chw said: Wonder where you got that fact that the Steam DCS community is far bigger, I've never seen any statistics from ED disclosing that type of information. I understand that this new trial is not for the Steam version of DCS, so it makes sense that it is not mentioned on the Steam newsletter. The Steam community as a whole is much larger. A lot of the people on here were originally on Steam and probably became aware of DCS through Steam (myself included), which makes a lot of sense. For almost every other release/sale/event, the newsletter on Steam always includes the same information as on the website in my experience, even if it's not offered on Steam. This, again, makes sense, if ED actually wants new players to buy their product that is. "I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer." - Michael Bluth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickmow Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, aleader said: The Steam community as a whole is much larger. A lot of the people on here were originally on Steam and probably became aware of DCS through Steam (myself included), which makes a lot of sense. For almost every other release/sale/event, the newsletter on Steam always includes the same information as on the website in my experience, even if it's not offered on Steam. This, again, makes sense, if ED actually wants new players to buy their product that is. Quote your sources ? Otherwise your just making stuff up to suit your argument, a fairly common trait here, I’m sure if ED need marketing advice they will hire you on the basis of .......?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) by steamdb, has only a peak of 3000 players https://steamdb.info/app/223750/graphs/ Meanwhile at 0:46 GMT Steam: 978 DCS World Open Beta Standalone: 1700 (Multiplayer) DCS World Release Standalone: 373 (Multiplayer) ED has talk multiplayer comunity al only a fraction of DCS World players. Edited June 17, 2021 by Silver_Dragon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 18, 2021 ED Team Share Posted June 18, 2021 Hi all, please return to discussing the newsletter, the purpose of this thread. thanks 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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