2.1 MiG-21 Updates

[Gunny Highway]

Has anyone seen info regarding the progress of the MiG-21 in 2.1? Seems rather quiet. Ive parked it in 2.1 for now, the 1.5 version is way better. My fear with Leatherneck dissolving was that the MiG-21 would not be able to keep pace with the very fluid DCS environment.

[R1Lawsy]

+1 still my fav but this and lack of content... Doesn't look good...

 

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[vitabutch]

I quit Fishbed quite while ago since in VR it's unusable. Even though it is my favorite aircraft type. It is obvious devs to stop their care about this product. They haven't even commented a single post about mig for ages. So I will keep out from exLN products in the future until we see the real deal about all fancy stuff they whistle around.

 

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[kunterbunt]

Has anyone seen info regarding the progress of the MiG-21 in 2.1? Seems rather quiet. Ive parked it in 2.1 for now, the 1.5 version is way better. My fear with Leatherneck dissolving was that the MiG-21 would not be able to keep pace with the very fluid DCS environment.

 

 

 

What exactly is the reason it is not usable in VR. I remember seeing very stunning pictures of the new physical based rendering skins of the fished. So development is ongoing.

 

 

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[hughlb]

What exactly is the reason it is not usable in VR. I remember seeing very stunning pictures of the new physical based rendering skins of the fished. So development is ongoing.

 

 

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It has a deal-breaking stutter problem in 2.0 and now 2.1.

[probad]

the fact you guys think devs lack the integrity to be doing work when you're not looking is downright insulting.

 

it's even more insulting when this process of blackmailing devs for reassurances is on constant loop.

[Harle]

Judging by the state of ASP sight, the future of this module is murky ((

[r4y30n]

2.1 MiG-21 Updates

 

the fact you guys think devs lack the integrity to be doing work when you're not looking is downright insulting.

 

it's even more insulting when this process of blackmailing devs for reassurances is on constant loop.

 

 

 

+1!

 

 

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[R1Lawsy]

I use the Mig daily, its not in a great state in 2.1...

 

2.1 is not in a great state and i dont blame them for waiting for a stable release before any further changes...

 

Works great in 1,5.? and i fly exclusively in VR...

 

its still the best module available currently...

 

VR performance in 2.1 is much lower than other modules - that and the cockpit not being displayed correctly are the only issues im having personally...

[archer86]

for me, Mig-21 is only flyable on 1.5 platform, I hadnt fly on 2.0..... for along time.

I hope one day it will be flyable on 2.0....

[Xxx]

Has anyone seen info regarding the progress of the MiG-21 in 2.1? Seems rather quiet. Ive parked it in 2.1 for now, the 1.5 version is way better. My fear with Leatherneck dissolving was that the MiG-21 would not be able to keep pace with the very fluid DCS environment.

 

I agree the Mig 21 is spot on in 1.5. It's a superb sim.:thumbup:

 

However, someone has taken the time to code RSBN channels into all the air strips in Normandy! So we can fly the Mig 21 around Normandy, with RSBN navigation.:D

 

Once the 2.1 Shading issues are sorted out, perhaps the Mig will be adapted to fit the new engine? It seems like the graphics engine is leading the development process and the modules are in a state of catch-up?

 

For now, I can fly it in Normandy pretty much like 1.5. But I don't have VR.

 

Cheers.

[javelina1]

What exactly is the reason it is not usable in VR. I remember seeing very stunning pictures of the new physical based rendering skins of the fished. So development is ongoing.

 

 

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In VR, it's one of the most incredible cockpits. absolutely stunning to see all of those "switches and things..." ;):thumbup:

[Vincent90]

the fact you guys think devs lack the integrity to be doing work when you're not looking is downright insulting.

 

it's even more insulting when this process of blackmailing devs for reassurances is on constant loop.

It's even more shocking that you can't voice valid criticism of the (increasingly worrying) state the DCS aircrafts get sold on these forums, without getting the fanboy army on your back.

 

Fact: After 2.5 years, half of the systems are still missing and the only feedback we get are from the graphical variety.

 

Leatherneck was doing a great job the first few weeks after the split, but it seems development has halted to "maintaining the status quo of september 2014".

 

The binary "you're with us or against us" attitude on these forums really needs to stop.

[NeilWillis]

Remind me again, how long has 2.1.x been in the public domain? Is it months or years? Oh no, of course, it is just a few weeks.

 

So no, the comments are simply unreasonable, and the fan boy label is frankly childish and immature. Traits that go along with impatience and exaggerated comments, so much to be expected I feel.

 

Clearly work needs to be done, but in the meantime, there is 1.5 - the release version of DCS World, in which the MiG-21Bis performs well, even if it is feature incomplete according to some of you.

 

It seems people demand instant gratification as soon as an Alpha version of DCS World hits the public domain. That I am afraid will only ever lead to frustration and name calling.

 

Get real guys. A month is no time at all to expect results. Give them a break.

[some1]

To be honest, 2.1 looks like it's been pushed just to get Normandy out of the doors and 3rd party devs didn't even get any lead time to update their aircraft to PBR before it went live. Even in-house ED aircraft are still WIP.

 

Poor performance in VR is also a trait of 2.1 alpha, common to all aircraft. Although fact is, MiG-21 always had below average FPS, which 2.1 only magnifies.

[DaveRindner]

Sadly in 2.1 and 2.1.1 it performance has gone down to unusable FPS. Very sad, on an otherwise great module. I dont know if it is still being developed.

[Vincent90]

Remind me again, how long has 2.1.x been in the public domain? Is it months or years? Oh no, of course, it is just a few weeks.

 

So no, the comments are simply unreasonable, and the fan boy label is frankly childish and immature. Traits that go along with impatience and exaggerated comments, so much to be expected I feel.

 

Clearly work needs to be done, but in the meantime, there is 1.5 - the release version of DCS World, in which the MiG-21Bis performs well, even if it is feature incomplete according to some of you.

 

It seems people demand instant gratification as soon as an Alpha version of DCS World hits the public domain. That I am afraid will only ever lead to frustration and name calling.

 

Get real guys. A month is no time at all to expect results. Give them a break.

Thanks for exactly proving my point

[Domcho]

I just recently got the MiG-21 module. Should I be worried about it's future?

[NeilWillis]

Thanks for exactly proving my point

 

Voicing valid criticism is one thing. Not allowing the testing phase to end before sounding off is quite another, so no, you have proven no point at all beyond your unreasonable assumption that 3rd party devs have nothing better to do than cater to your every whim.

 

No one objects to reasoned, and considered complaints. We're just too close to the initial release for there to be any hope of a valid whinge here.

 

Give it a couple of months, and repost it, and maybe we'll take you seriously!

[Gunny Highway]

Voicing valid criticism is one thing. Not allowing the testing phase to end before sounding off is quite another, so no, you have proven no point at all beyond your unreasonable assumption that 3rd party devs have nothing better to do than cater to your every whim.

 

No one objects to reasoned, and considered complaints. We're just too close to the initial release for there to be any hope of a valid whinge here.

 

Give it a couple of months, and repost it, and maybe we'll take you seriously!

 

This isn't just about the lighting issues caused by the 2.1 roll out. Even some first party modules are having issues here (P51D, Ka-50). The issues to me are the flight model on the mig-21 which is still going through major changes 2.5 years out the gate, and exists in two different states on 1.5 vs 2.1. There are some other issues like with the ASP, which honestly doesn't bother me, but I think people are justified in showing some concern.

[Bogey Jammer]

I don't see any reason to be more worried by the state of the MiG-21 than DCS 2.1 which looks pretty immature. I'll only buy the Normady theatre when a solid 2.5 version will come out. Until then, it's a waste of user's money and patience (a lot more), and a waste of development time for third parties.

Magnitude 3 is currently trying to absorb the Leatherneck split shockwave. It wouldn't sound unnatural to me if they are sorting more important things other than chasing beta bugs for a beta version of the main sim.

[asla36]

They are also, still, cooking something... Like seriously, it's been months, give us a hint! :D

[Gunny Highway]

looks like nothing changes today. Maybe next week™?