DCS A-20 Havoc or B-26 Marauder Bombers as flyable modules ?

[Basco1]

As Normandy is now well and truly here,flying around this excellent map,I can't help but think that what would be great is a flyable bomber.There are so many excellent targets of opportunity to be had.

 

 

Now I appreciate the work to develop a flyable B-17G would be a very labour intensive task,however,as the A-20 Havoc and B-26 bombers are now being developed as Ai aircraft,these surely would make great little bomber modules to make flyable,and for DCS to have it's first WWII bomber.

 

 

They both have less engines,less turrets than the B-17 to create,and would make fine bombers to get us all started.

 

 

DCS is lacking a bomber IMO,and these would be both ideal modules.

 

 

Now I appreciate to create both modules would be an impossible task,but to have either one of these bombers would be fantastic.

 

 

Both bombers figured highly during the battles of Normandy,so they would match the Normandy scene perfectly.

[Silver_Dragon]

As Normandy is now well and truly here,flying around this excellent map,I can't help but think that what would be great is a flyable bomber.There are so many excellent targets of opportunity to be had.

 

 

Now I appreciate the work to develop a flyable B-17G would be a very labour intensive task,however,as the A-20 Havoc and B-26 bombers are now being developed as Ai aircraft,these surely would make great little bomber modules to make flyable,and for DCS to have it's first WWII bomber.

 

 

They both have less engines,less turrets than the B-17 to create,and would make fine bombers to get us all started.

 

 

DCS is lacking a bomber IMO,and these would be both ideal modules.

 

 

Now I appreciate to create both modules would be an impossible task,but to have either one of these bombers would be fantastic.

 

 

Both bombers figured highly during the battles of Normandy,so they would match the Normandy scene perfectly.

Yo-yo tell about a "project" about a twin engine bomber but none official about model and era has been confirmed.

 

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[DD_Fenrir]

I would put my money on a Mitchell in that case and most likely the -25J - more airworthy examples around today to reference than the other two and used by the RAF over Normandy.

 

Though if I'm proved wrong I wouldn't grumble!

[philstyle]

I would expect the twin-engines bombers to be a more sensible option for player-flyables.

 

 

Same goes for RAF types like the Lanc. Sure, they are amating birds, but their real-world value doesn't really match up so well with gaming expectations.

 

 

The twinnies (A20, B25, Mosquito) make more sense.

And given that the A20 and B25 were used extensively by the RAF and the USAAF, those would be more sensible than the mozzie (despite my love for the mozzie....)

[DD_Fenrir]

...those would be more sensible than the mozzie (despite my love for the mozzie....)

 

You think you know some one... disappointed in you Phil. :disgust:

 

:D

[Ala13_ManOWar]

Yo-yo tell about a "project" about a twin engine bomber but none official about model and era has been confirmed

I'm not sure he said it was a bomber, just a twin piston engine aircraft in order to help develop the tech behind such a highly complex flight model. It could be anything, a P-38 as has been said many times would be gladly welcome though a bomber would also surely be. Anyway, the Me262 is a twin engine, so who knows what's in ED's mind...

 

 

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[Solty]

I'm not sure he said it was a bomber, just a twin piston engine aircraft in mer to help develop the tech behind such a highly complex flight model. It could be anything, a P-38 as has been said many times would be gladly welcome though a bomber would also surely be. Anyway, the Me262 is a twin engine, so who knows what's in ED's mind...

 

 

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They have quite a few twin engine planes by now. MIG29, F-15, Su-27, Su25 etc. But they ate all jets.

 

But I agree that if DCS ww2 is suposse to be relevant for years to come, we need twin engine attackers. Me410, Hs129, A20, Mosquito etc.

Edited June 30, 2017 by Solty

[Ala13_ManOWar]

They have quite a few twin engine planes by now. MIG29, F-15, Su-27, Su25 etc. But they ate all jets.

Well, yes they have, but sometimes Yo-yo has pointed out how WWII piston engines are related to Ka-50 gas turbine model, and who knows how the model of the early jet engines in Me-262 would be, though no props for sure.

 

Anyway, the huge problem is to model a twin piston engine with all the forces involved in props but doubled and including the interferences between those forces and quirks typical to a RL multi-engine aircraft (bear in mind, unseen in any simulator to the date). I guess that's a really complex maths and engineering exercise in the DCS way.

 

 

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[Angelthunder]

I would buy the A-20 Havoc in a heartbeat as well as the A-26 Invader and the B-24 Liberator and the Mitchell of course.I would like ED to take a stab at making it's first multi engine plane for WWII in the future by starting out with a twin engine modeled first.:thumbup:

[Magic Zach]

I'm not so sure about big heavy bombers, as far as multiplayer. I don't think it will work out too well, in general servers. There will likely be a lot of random loners, instead of one big mass. This will lead to said loners being easily picked off. And group on teamspeak don't get that big in numbers, compared to the numbers for real bombing runs.

 

However, I do think that other ground attack aircraft would be better for gameplay. For example, a flyable Junkers JU-87. One pilot, one gunner. Not too big and unmaneuverable, and has good cannons for more light attack roles.

 

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[msalama]

I'd buy both the Havoc and the Mitchell in a heartbeat. Flew both a lot in an old sim back in the day and absolutely loved the groundpounding! & imagine how much better they'd be here in DCS... :thumbup:

[NeilWillis]

The Mossie is the obvious choice. Flying examples are around, it is the most versatile aircraft of the entire war, has both crew members in the one compartment, and out performs just about everything else out there, including giving fighters a real run for their money.

 

Plus it's made of wood, so material costs will be lower :music_whistling:

[WinterH]

A-20, B-25, A-26 would all be great. Bf-110, Ju-87, Mosquito would also be cool.

 

And may be even Pe-2 and IL-2, though that would be whole another theater.

 

Some prop attack planes would be cool indeed.

 

Although funnily, and perhaps arguably, the upcoming P-47 would be a better attack plane than most of these :).

 

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[msalama]

And may be even Pe-2 and IL-2, though that would be whole another theater.

 

HELL yes. Would purchase them plus the theatre immediately. Flew the arse off both in that aforementioned sim of old & absolutely loved them, especially the IL-2. That plane is sturdy as hell and packs a mighty MIGHTY punch! Das Betonflugzeug indeed, as the Germans called it :D

 

Plus all those hair-raising divebombing gigs in the Peshka... those were the days!

Edited August 2, 2017 by msalama

[tom1502]

Mosquito FB VI is a MUST have aircraft, along with the Hawker Typhoon. Can't have a representation of Normandy without the Typhoon.

[DB 605]

JU88. If you know what i'm sayin'...

[mvsgas]

What do you guys think of the P-61 Black Widows or the A-26/B-26 Invader

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[BitMaster]

The B-26 would be great. It has been used from WWII to Vietnam.

 

A true milestone in military aviation

 

 

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[AG-51_Razor]

Couldn't agree more!! The Invader was the quintessential light attack bomber for the Allies. The Mossie was, by far, more beautiful and the Mitchel more iconic, but if you need something to get you and your bombs in and out fast and unscathed, the Invader is the one you want!!

[WinterH]

I personally find A-26 to be prettier than Mossie myself :p.

 

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[Weta43]

Have you got an astigmatism ?

[WinterH]

I was going to wtite the post between <controversial></controversial> tags :D.

 

I'll say it again, Invader looks better than Mosquito in my opinion :D.

[Weta43]

:)

[Emmy]

A flyable B-26 Marauder would be awesome! Even an AI version would add a lot to mission planning in Normandy.