Future F-18D? Possible?

[Ignition]

Hi, is there any chance for a future F-18D?

 

I know we don't even have the F-18C and to make a D it would take time but it would be awesome to have a dual seat aircraft for multiplayer and having a "base" with the C version, it would reduce somewhat the time of development.

[mvsgas]

You mean the Strike version with no rear cockpit controls or the trainer versions?

[Ignition]

You mean the Strike version with no rear cockpit controls or the trainer versions?

 

Not the trainer. Please, no more trainers :P

 

It would be awesome to have a WSO in multiplayer.

[mvsgas]

Everyone has fun on their own way. I like single seat multi role type, no school bus (AkA Multiple seat aircraft) for me.

[Kev2go]

F18D isnt a trainer. ( although it can and has been used for such purposes) Its fully capable of being configured as strike & A2A capable roles . Backseater is there as a sort of navigator/ weapoons officer....

 

However the F18D would not be another L39 or hawk if thats what you mean.

 

Personally though Id rather have Ed ( or a 3rd party ) make the F.A18E or F Super Hornets, rather than just get another Legacy Hornet

[Texac]

I've read that adding the D version along the C doesn't reduce the time of development. It still requires a completely new exterior & interior 3d model, textures and a second re-coding of all the cockpit switches and instruments, including the back seat for mulitplayer purposes, various systems and more.

 

Gathering all the information, data that is needed to implement the systems of the WSO also needs to be kept in mind.

[terminator363]

DCS needs more trainers!!

[Wizard_03]

was wondering how long a thread like this would show up :)

[Kev2go]

DCS needs more trainers!!

 

 

 

I can tell it was was obvious meant tongue in cheek by your part , but I don't think you realize that the F/A18D is fully combat capable jet and not merely just used for trainers purposes. It can do everything the C would be capable of , except it would allow multicrew, and some reduced workload.

people are too quick to shrug it off as just "trainer" by the same logic, the F/A18F is just a "trainer"

 

il only re quote

 

F18D isnt a trainer. ( although it can and has been used for such purposes) Its fully capable of being configured as strike & A2A capable roles . Backseater is there as a sort of navigator/ weapoons officer....

 

However the F18D would not be another L39 or hawk if thats what you mean.

 

Personally though Id rather have Ed ( or a 3rd party ) make the F.A18E or F Super Hornets, rather than just get another Legacy Hornet

Edited February 13, 2018 by Kev2go

[Ignition]

was wondering how long a thread like this would show up :)

 

Well, I wanted to play coop in the same aircraft since I saw those apache cockpit renders like 10 years ago?

 

Having the F-18C version done, I think it would be a great opportunity for the D version since most of the weapons and systems would be already implemented. It would take time? I'm sure it will, everything here takes time.

 

I don't want to have only trainers to fly coop in the same plane. All the work to develop the multicrew doesnt mean anything for me if I cant fly a modern combat aircraft with my friends because I dont buy trainers. I can train with the real combat aircraft because its a simulation and not real life.

 

I know its difficult and it takes time, but at least if we could have aircrafts which could be between FC3 and DCS, so its not arcade but also is not full fidelity taking years to complete, it would be nice.

[Spudknocker]

I really love the look of the D just an external model would be cool!

[WinterH]

Give me the single seater whenever possible, thank you very much... I'd rather prefer the effort that would be spent on a theoretical two seater Hornet to be spent elsewhere.

 

However, for the folks who crave two seaters these already are on roadmap:

- Heatblur's F-14B & A

- Razbam plans on doing F-15E and A-6 later, as well Super Tucano sooner.

- Belsimtek is almost certainly doing Mi-24P.

- I think you already have some multiplayer two seat capability with polychop's SA-342M Gazelle.

 

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[Home Fries]

I like the idea. Give us NFOs some love (though we love the Tomcat as well)! Heck, any multicrew aircraft is welcome; they're what let us guys with glasses wear those cool flightsuits! :smartass:

 

Marines use the D for the all-weather attack role (replacing the A-6), in which the WSO is used for navigation and weapons employment to reduce the workload of the pilot while flying in the goo. You could make some nice missions in bad weather with the D (or the A-6, which I wouldn't mind either).

Edited July 13, 2017 by Home Fries

[DAN]

F18D isnt a trainer. ( although it can and has been used for such purposes) Its fully capable of being configured as strike & A2A capable roles . Backseater is there as a sort of navigator/ weapoons officer....

 

However the F18D would not be another L39 or hawk if thats what you mean.

 

Personally though Id rather have Ed ( or a 3rd party ) make the F.A18E or F Super Hornets, rather than just get another Legacy Hornet

 

The D is a trainer. The Marines (AW) Units are the only one using it with a WSO cockpit. And VMFAT-101 got a few ones obviously.

 

Edited July 13, 2017 by DAN

[Kev2go]

The D is a trainer. The Marines (AW) Units are the only one using it with a WSO cockpit. And VMFAT-101 got a few ones obviously.

 

 

*sigh*

 

 

 

 

# splitting hairs over mere semantics

 

 

3rd time repeating:

 

F18D can and has been used for combat purposes. (you yourself even pointed out the USMC them in frontline service) and is not a just mere trainer. Some are quick to shrug it off like its just another L39 or Hawk which is not the case. USMC is still a relevant service branch within the US military.

 

 

 

 

and FYI Malaysia also uses the F18D in front line service for combat purposes.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 13, 2017 by Kev2go

[SkateZilla]

Export Countries Received F/A-18Ds in a different Configuration.

 

USN/USMC Used the B/Ds Primarily in Fleet Replacement Sqns for Training. (*NOTE I SAID PRIMARILY)

[Buzzles]

If anyone is going to bother with a 2-seat Hornet, might as well go Super and aim for a -F, or even to push the boat out and go for a -G if they want to bring something new to DCS.

[FINISTRUS]

Give F/A-18D :pilotfly: :joystick:

[jojyrocks]

Would rather prefer a fresh module of F-18F Rhino...than the same ol of what we already have with having twin seat. However, an AI model will be welcome..

[SkateZilla]

I've read that adding the D version along the C doesn't reduce the time of development. It still requires a completely new exterior & interior 3d model, textures and a second re-coding of all the cockpit switches and instruments, including the back seat for mulitplayer purposes, various systems and more.

 

Gathering all the information, data that is needed to implement the systems of the WSO also needs to be kept in mind.

 

For AI,

The External would be 85% retained from the C/ with only the forward section needing changes,

Edited February 14, 2020 by SkateZilla

[Richard Dastardly]

I've read that adding the D version along the C doesn't reduce the time of development. It still requires a completely new exterior & interior 3d model, textures and a second re-coding of all the cockpit switches and instruments, including the back seat for mulitplayer purposes, various systems and more.

 

Gathering all the information, data that is needed to implement the systems of the WSO also needs to be kept in mind.

 

Would also need a new flight model.

 

Would rather prefer a fresh module of F-18F Rhino...than the same ol of what we already have with having twin seat. However, an AI model will be welcome..

 

Rhino as a completely modern aircraft isn't likely to happen, any more than Typhoon/Rafale etc.

 

For AI,

The External would be 85% retained from the E/ with only the forward section needing changes,

 

Mapping? new textures etc? depending how it was unwrapped it might vary between neading very little or a huge chunk unwrappd again.

 

Would be fun, if anyone would fly it over the C model. I like having a human tomcat RIO but it doesn't happen much.

[Kev2go]

Would also need a new flight model.

 

 

 

Rhino as a completely modern aircraft isn't likely to happen, any more than Typhoon/Rafale etc.

 

 

 

Mapping? new textures etc? depending how it was unwrapped it might vary between neading very little or a huge chunk unwrappd again.

 

Would be fun, if anyone would fly it over the C model. I like having a human tomcat RIO but it doesn't happen much.

 

 

Thats a misconception about the Super Hornets. A block 1 series Super Hornets would very much be possible. A high degree of systems of commonality between late model legacy and early super bugs ( 90% of software code compatibility,Radar, same radar, among other things).

 

 

the F/A18F or F/A18D can still be operated entirely by the pilot in the front seat as you would fly thier respective single seat equivalents if you didn't have a backseater present. IN these aircraft the WSO is basically just workload relief, and not crucial crewmen to running the airframe, unlike the F14 where the tomcat pilot can't so much as wipe his own ass without a RIO present ( be it human or AI).

Edited February 12, 2020 by Kev2go

[AegisFX]

A few things: I was hurt when CoreTex announced they were no longer working on a full fidelity F-18E. If the only thing we could do in an 18G was dump bigger, more effective chaff, I'd find someone and escort jam for any strike package I could join. It also moves us toward support aircraft, and I see no reason we shouldn't get something like the S-3 tanker with 2 player setup. Imagine the Joy's of joining a flight, giving everyone a couple thousand lbs of fuel, then rtb while they continue a super long leg for a deep strike, etc.