Arekushi Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Hello, Is it possible to have an option to set the F-18 as "Agressor" ? By that I mean that the signal from that F-18 would read "Mig-29" or "Some kind of ennemy aircraft". (I believe the actual F-16 and F-15 in the 64th do that IRL). It would allow more flexibility for PvP (and PvE) for people that do not own other modules or do not want to fly other aircraft. Thanks, Aru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Interesting one, but quite niche, not seen that request before so it isn't common. So I have to ask, how do they do that IRL? I thought that the RWR only gave the signal based on the specific type of radar emision, so can it handle distinct airframes or would all radarsof type X then display the same indicator - like the 29 symbol is shown for multiple radar types afaik? If it's the later, it's moddable but not configurable without a restart of the game and removing the mod (by simply changing the icon in the mod) ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 They use a pod, I always have trouble remembering the name/designation but you can normally see it on centerline station of Aggressor F-16. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvern Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Since we have the NTTR map, this would be lovely to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Never mind, this just simulated enemy jammers AFAIK AN/ALQ-188 Overview. The AN/ALQ-188 (V) is the USAF dedicated Electronic Protection (EP) training pod system. The Advanced Capabilities Pod (ACaP) is a dedicated aggressor training asset based at Nellis AFB and Eielson AFB. The ALQ-188 was developed to provide aircrews the tools necessary to enhance the probability of mission success and survival in a hostile Electronic Attack (EA) environment. The ACaP was procured to provide additional EA training. 7.2.1. The AN/ALQ-188 simulates known EA threats for aircrew EA/EP training and weapons system development. It can also emulate observed and postulated threats for research and development, weapons system evaluation, and operational flight program validations. The AN/ALQ-188 aircrew handbooks and user’s guides are available on the 53 WG SIPRnet website “ewtoolbox.eglin.af.smil.mil” under the handbook’s pull down menu. 7.2.2. The AN/ALQ-188 (V) is a fully programmable EA training pod capable of generating up to 30 noise/deception EA techniques. It is lightweight, and flight-certified to aircraft stores limits on the F-15/F-16, with a mean time between failure (MTBF) exceeding 300 hours. It has both forward and rear transmit and receive antennas that are controlled from the cockpit by a C-9492A/B Control Indicator and the AN/ALQ-213(V) Countermeasures Set (CMS). https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.e-publishing.af.mil%2Fproduction%2F1%2Facc%2Fpublication%2Facci10-707%2Facci10-707.pdf Edited August 17, 2017 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudknocker Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 This could be interesting! I have always hoped that ED or anyone else making RED FLAG campaigns would use F-16's, F/A-18's, F-15's and F-5's as the bandits instead of actual Flankers, Fulcrums and Fishbeds (Oh my!) It would even be very cool once we get heatblur's F-14's to use Tomcats as aggressor Allycats or MiG-25's! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will- Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Never mind, this just simulated enemy jammers AFAIK AN/ALQ-188 https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.e-publishing.af.mil%2Fproduction%2F1%2Facc%2Fpublication%2Facci10-707%2Facci10-707.pdf Any pictures? C-9492A/B Control Indicator what does it look like? Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Any pictures? C-9492A/B Control Indicator what does it look like? Nope I don't know To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Interesting one, but quite niche, not seen that request before so it isn't common. So I have to ask, how do they do that IRL? I thought that the RWR only gave the signal based on the specific type of radar emision, so can it handle distinct airframes or would all radarsof type X then display the same indicator - like the 29 symbol is shown for multiple radar types afaik? If it's the later, it's moddable but not configurable without a restart of the game and removing the mod (by simply changing the icon in the mod) RWRs etc. can display whatever they're told to display. IRL the threat libraries are not hard coded but can be (and are) loaded based on the requirements of the operators. It is common to have separate threat libraries for training and combat operations. And combat threat libraries/mission data can be, and is, customised for individual operations depending on the order of battle. In short, if you tell the RWR that the radar signal from a blk 30 F-16 is a MiG-29, or anything, that's what it will display. And there are other things that can be tweaked as well. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoen Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 You know they do that because they don't have real enemy hardware but in DCS we kinda do. Not that there's a problem with going Meta and doing a simulation of a simulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 You know they do that because they don't have real enemy hardware If you say so fella. :D Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arekushi Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 @lemoen : No, you don't get the point. For people with only the F-18, it gives them the possibility to define two teams. It's essentially like changing the paint scheme of the aircraft, but for the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikers_blade Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 this ^^^ Allowing such option would help not having a 25 vs 2 on PvP servers. Not all players have MIGs or Flankers and not all players know how to fly them properly. My systems: Windows 10 64 bits I7-8700k 32.0 GB RAM 500Gb SSD Asus ROG 2080ti HP Reverb Windows 10 64 bits I7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70Ghz 32.0 GB RAM 500Gb SSD Nvidia Quadro M4000M TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapsu Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 If you tell RWR to show signal from APG-73 as Mig-29 then it's going to show all friendly hornets as Mig-29s too. I guess in DCS you could cheat around that based on coalitions, but IRL you would need to modify aggressor hornet radar so RWR can tell the difference, maybe they have done that idk. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS Finland - Finnish DCS community SF Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 this ^^^ Allowing such option would help not having a 25 vs 2 on PvP servers. Not all players have MIGs or Flankers and not all players know how to fly them properly. wtf? What kind of bs logic is this? rwr signature has never stopped players flying redfor f-15s, and it has never stopped players from stacking blue either, because people who insist on roleplaying "the good guys" aren't going to fly red no matter what. in mixed type servers this will have to be disabled because it's straight up deceptive, advertising the fa-18 as a different aircraft that can actually be encountered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Would be nice for MP, but for that there needs to be coding from ED. For a simple swap from one icon to another its moddable, so perhaps for small private groups then. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 If you tell RWR to show signal from APG-73 as Mig-29 then it's going to show all friendly hornets as Mig-29s too. I guess in DCS you could cheat around that based on coalitions, but IRL you would need to modify aggressor hornet radar so RWR can tell the difference, maybe they have done that idk. You can change the output from the radars from the airplanes so the RWR can differentiate Bob from Bill even if they are both in F-18s. Such tactical plane radars need to be different anyway so they can tell apart your returns from your wingman's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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