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Has it received the high Fidelity Flight Model yet?

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Hi mytai,

The MiG-29 has had its 3D model and cockpit updated in the past couple of years but it is still using the SFM.

 

The Su-33's PFM update is nearly complete from the looks of things, at which time I think we can expect ED to take a look at the Fulcrum's flight model! :)

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Lets hope so!

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Can't wait to fly the Fulcrum with a proper FM.

 

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I still hope that there is a possibility to get an in dept DCS-Module of maybe an early export version of the Mig-29. Would love to see the polish version of the 29G :D

 

Nevertheless it will be interesting to see which improvements - cockpit animations and nav panel - will come with the PFM overhaul. Would be a nice christmas gift :pilotfly:

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Hi mytai,

The MiG-29 has had its 3D model and cockpit updated in the past couple of years but it is still using the SFM.

 

The Su-33's PFM update is nearly complete from the looks of things, at which time I think we can expect ED to take a look at the Fulcrum's flight model! :)

 

Can't wait to fly the Fulcrum with a proper FM.

 

I can't wait for it either. :smilewink:

 

I just hope they bring back the different cockpits for each version of the Mig rather than leaving it where it is with all 3 models using the S variant cockpit. The G cockpit should have German written in it rather than Russian. :P It also needs an East German skin. :D But I do like the fact it says "Shoot" and "Left/right engine fire" in German now. :thumbup: When I last used it (a year ago) it was only speaking in English. :P

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I can't wait for it either. :smilewink:

 

I just hope they bring back the different cockpits for each version of the Mig rather than leaving it where it is with all 3 models using the S variant cockpit. The G cockpit should have German written in it rather than Russian. :P It also needs an East German skin. :D But I do like the fact it says "Shoot" and "Left/right engine fire" in German now. :thumbup: When I last used it (a year ago) it was only speaking in English. :P

 

The 29G has an partially english labeled cockpit ;)

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But it definitely should have an own cockpit :thumbup:

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The 29G has an partially english labeled cockpit ;) ... But it definitely should have an own cockpit :thumbup:
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The 29G has an partially english labeled cockpit ;)

12a184197ce3d327e5c0113d2b3bdbf9.jpg

 

1261653.jpg?v=v40

 

But it definitely should have an own cockpit :thumbup:

 

Ah, that I didn't know. :P I figured a German aircraft would have German words. :doh: Makes me wonder what the first migs East Germany had displayed in their cockpits. :D Would it be Russian then? I doubt the Soviets would put English in the planes for their associated republics. :smilewink:

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Ah, that I didn't know. :P I figured a German aircraft would have German words.

 

A mix of English and German is used in the MiG-29G cockpit.

 

English panel decals, text on warning lamps and text messages on the Aekran, while the voice warning system is in German(don't know if it was changed after Poland bought them).

 

Additionally some instruments are either swapped out(e.g. pressure altimeter) or re-calibrated for the imperial system. There are also changes to other equipment(e.g. the radio).

 

Makes me wonder what the first migs East Germany had displayed in their cockpits. :D Would it be Russian then? I doubt the Soviets would put English in the planes for their associated republics. :smilewink:

 

I don't know, but it was probably in Russian, but I guess the German voice warnings could be a leftover from the GDR days.

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Ah, that I didn't know. :P I figured a German aircraft would have German words. :doh: Makes me wonder what the first migs East Germany had displayed in their cockpits. :D Would it be Russian then? I doubt the Soviets would put English in the planes for their associated republics. :smilewink:

 

I suspect it was all in russian.

 

I am sure ED will deliver an accurate depiction of the 29G at one point

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A mix of English and German is used in the MiG-29G cockpit.

 

English panel decals, text on warning lamps and text messages on the Aekran, while the voice warning system is in German(don't know if it was changed after Poland bought them).

 

Additionally some instruments are either swapped out(e.g. pressure altimeter) or re-calibrated for the imperial system. There are also changes to other equipment(e.g. the radio).

 

 

 

I don't know, but it was probably in Russian, but I guess the German voice warnings could be a leftover from the GDR days.

 

I suspect it was all in russian.

 

I am sure ED will deliver an accurate depiction of the 29G at one point

 

Well, I guess the plus side of having been a Soviet republic was being multi-lingual. :P

 

I really hope they do accurately depict the cockpit of all the migs (especially the G). :thumbup: It's really strange to be in the A, G, or S and not seeing any difference except if attempting to use the ECM. :P

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A mix of English and German is used in the MiG-29G cockpit.

 

English panel decals, text on warning lamps and text messages on the Aekran, while the voice warning system is in German(don't know if it was changed after Poland bought them).

 

Additionally some instruments are either swapped out(e.g. pressure altimeter) or re-calibrated for the imperial system. There are also changes to other equipment(e.g. the radio).

 

 

 

I don't know, but it was probably in Russian, but I guess the German voice warnings could be a leftover from the GDR days.

 

Thanks for the additional information on the voice warning system - i didn't knew that. I thought it was changed from russian to english in the transition process after the german reunion and incorporation of the migs into nato service - like the mentioned radio and iff-interrogator changes - so thanks for the clarification :thumbup::thumbup:

 

@Kelpie yeah definitely - in the end it would be amazing to fly a DCS-Level polish 29G in Red flag vs the Bug or the Turkey over NTTR

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Well, I guess the plus side of having been a Soviet republic was being multi-lingual. :P

 

I believe(maybe Pasquale1986 knows more), that in GDR schools, learning Russian was obligatory. Thats why I can imagine that the MiG-29 cockpits weren't re-labelled in German(or English for that matter).

 

I really hope they do accurately depict the cockpit of all the migs (especially the G). :thumbup: It's really strange to be in the A, G, or S and not seeing any difference except if attempting to use the ECM. :P

 

Exactly - and when you consider that the MiG-29 versions in DCS aren't all that different to each other(compared to other/newer versions), it makes having 3 different versions rather pointless if the differences that do exist aren't properly depicted :)

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Thanks for the additional information on the voice warning system - i didn't knew that. I thought it was changed from russian to english in the transition process after the german reunion and incorporation of the migs into nato service - like the mentioned radio and iff-interrogator changes - so thanks for the clarification

 

You are welcome :) . You are right that, in the NATO context, it would have seemed more logical to also change the voice warnings to English. Thats why I think it may have been a leftover from the GDR days, that the Luftwaffe just found useful(or cool) to keep - but I don't know.

 

I said that the MiG-29G cockpit has a mix of English and German, but as you know, there are also quite a few things that are still labelled in Russian.....so quite international :) .

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in East German Service the plane was in russian, like any other planes from russia the NVA/LSK used even GCI spoke in russian.

 

That's what i thought, too, but i don't have any sources on that, so neither can condfirm or deny and i didn't grew up on the dark side of the moon. So thanks for the info 1stBEAST.

 

It will be interesting to see, how ED approaches the Mig-29 overhaul. In the russian forums is a nice intense thread on this topic, that is quite readable with google translate:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114418

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in East German Service the plane was in russian..

 

Thanks - yes I expected as much.

 

..like any other planes from russia the NVA/LSK used even GCI spoke in russian.

 

So the German voice warnings in the MiG-29G are not likely to have been an LSK modification, but actually introduced by the Luftwaffe after the reunification?

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I always understood it was a part of the LW "G" modifications as they did a number of safety related modifications.


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A time frame would be nice. I’d gladly take even a yearly frame, 2018 ? 2019 ? Later ?

 

When the PFM will be out, can we expect a MiG-29 subforum too ? It is the only plane who lacks one.

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When the PFM will be out, can we expect a MiG-29 subforum too ? It is the only plane who lacks one.

 

The subforum is for the separately released FC3 modules, which happens once they receive a 3D cockpit and the AFM so there's no reason not to expect the same with MiG-29.

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A time frame would be nice. I’d gladly take even a yearly frame, 2018 ? 2019 ? Later ?

 

ED can't even predict a yearly frame for their releases, they missed their own predictions a few times in the past. Better assume that they just occasionally happen.

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