After the Tomcat?

[Home Fries]

I don't really see how that goes to contrary to what I've said?

 

It might have carried more than its replacements, but it's still a bomb truck with a limited top speed due to its design.

 

Not contradicting you at all. Just making the observation that the A-6 is faster than a lot of people give it credit for, and that includes while carrying a full load.

[jackmckay]

(This should go directly to engine developers, not module developers strictly) Everyone would appreciate leap forward in kinetic physics and fluid dynamics engine capabilities as current state is not satisfactory for anyone except casual and rookie players. Putting scope on MP, sensor raytracing and RCS/TCS signatures processing, missile guidance, countermeasure resistance need imminent upgrade. Terrain proximity LOD phasing, collision and damage engine is next on list. Lets face it straight forward, all we have is good graphics DX11 engine and fancy shiny 3d models with nice cockpit interior and good sounds but what is really missing is unified all-applicable physics behavior as every damn flying object has two basic components: geometry and aerodynamic forces as result of stable/changed geometry configurations in interaction with propulsion force. Inertial and ballistic behavior of models is first to start with - I mean unified and not tweaked and tuned for every model individually as then we wouldn't have cases of MP lagging and egg. cases of drastic difference of braking force generated by almost same air-brakes cross section like in M2k and 25t as least has 10% effectiveness of first one. Unified flight physics is must, rest is smoke and mirrors. That is the way to gain some respect in SIM world of today. At this state of game, putting another module in engine is not so enthusiastic option in my case as brief look back on history of DCS looks full of unfinished product starting from physics engine itself. Right now this looks like being in Ravell shop with every lack of adrenaline as there could be armed X15 in hangar with no soul in it. Once again - PHYSICS!

Edited September 20, 2017 by jackmckay

[AOG]

(This should go directly to engine developers, not module developers strictly) Everyone would appreciate leap forward in kinetic physics and fluid dynamics engine capabilities as current state is not satisfactory for anyone except casual and rookie players. Putting scope on MP, sensor raytracing and RCS/TCS signatures processing, missile guidance, countermeasure resistance need imminent upgrade. Terrain proximity LOD phasing, collision and damage engine is next on list. Lets face it straight forward, all we have is good graphics DX11 engine and fancy shiny 3d models with nice cockpit interior and good sounds but what is really missing is unified all-applicable physics behavior as every damn flying object has two basic components: geometry and aerodynamic forces as result of stable/changed geometry configurations in interaction with propulsion force. Inertial and ballistic behavior of models is first to start with - I mean unified and not tweaked and tuned for every model individually as then we wouldn't have cases of MP lagging and egg. cases of drastic difference of braking force generated by almost same air-brakes cross section like in M2k and 25t as least has 10% effectiveness of first one. Unified flight physics is must, rest is smoke and mirrors. That is the way to gain some respect in SIM world of today. At this state of game, putting another module in engine is not so enthusiastic option in my case as brief look back on history of DCS looks full of unfinished product starting from physics engine itself. Right now this looks like being in Ravell shop with every lack of adrenaline as there could be armed X15 in hangar with no soul in it. Once again - PHYSICS!

 

Do you have a super computer in your house to run it? Because that's what it would take to do a true CFD physics based flight simulator. We have them at work for the development of new aircraft and they can't be run in real time with any fidelity without bringing the cluster to it's knees. Even the level D simulators used to train pilots are table based and get wonky at the edges of the envelope. We are 10 years out from doing it in professional level D simulators and 15-20 years from home hardware being able to run true physics based simulations.

 

AOG

[Sealpup]

I'm going to be another one of 'those guys' and say MiG-25. Because who wouldn't want the Blackbird's little drinking buddy?

[carss]

I'm going to be another one of 'those guys' and say MiG-25. Because who wouldn't want the Blackbird's little drinking buddy?

 

I was about to say the same thing ;)

[RagnarDa]

Hey this is OT but since there are often quite a bit of general misunderstanding of how EFMs work in DCS I encourage everyone interested to check out the source code of CptSmileys F-16 or the accompanying NASA papers:

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=74365&share_tid=95985&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Eeagle%2Eru%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D95985&share_type=t

[QuiGon]

I hope it is an F-111 but with everyone speculating that it would have to have Jester/swing wings/naval/ground radar this and that, wouldn't it be funny if it was a JA-37 Viggen?

An F-111 would indeed fit, unlike the JA-37.

 

What about an Hawkeye :pilotfly:

Doesn't fit.

[Kev2go]

Plans are just plans. RAZBAM will be busy for years to come and do not have any exclusive rights to reserve any aircraft.

 

neither does Heatblur.

 

And A6 doesnt have all the technologies F14 does, so i do not consider that statement to mean the A6.

 

Besides IRRC razbam had already begun work on Mig23, but despite some early WIP, further developments were cancelled because Reasons. Apparently ED or someone does have exclusive rights. ( or someone already begun work on one)

[MBot]

neither does Heatblur.

 

I never said they do.

 

All I said is that the fact that RAZBAM plans to do the A-6E after the AV-8B(NA), Mirage IIIC, A-29B, MiG-19P, AV-8B+, A-7E and any other yet to be announced aircraft, would not prevent Heatblur to plan the A-6E on their own.

 

RAZBAM plans a lot of things...

Edited September 20, 2017 by MBot

[firmek]

I never said they do.

 

All I said is that the fact that RAZBAM plans to do the A-6E after the AV-8B(NA), Mirage IIIC, A-29B, MiG-19P, AV-8B+, A-7E and any other yet to be announced aircraft, would not prevent Heatblur to plan the A-6E on their own.

 

RAZBAM plans a lot of things...

Add the Tornado to the list ;)

[Kev2go]

I never said they do.

 

All I said is that the fact that RAZBAM plans to do the A-6E after the AV-8B(NA), Mirage IIIC, A-29B, MiG-19P, AV-8B+, A-7E and any other yet to be announced aircraft, would not prevent Heatblur to plan the A-6E on their own.

 

RAZBAM plans a lot of things...

 

NO Veao Plans a lot of things.........

[SandMartin]

After F-14 and DCS F-18 I think will be good, my personal wish list:

 

 

1) F-16A block 15 NETZ (IAF model) might be much easy to develop than complex block 52, because block 15 haven't glass cockpit and UFC.

2) Tornado IDS

3) F-15E (why not? - next level and much harder to made) - it will be cool successor of Janes F-15 and Strike Eagle from Microprose

4) F-117A

 

 

Edited September 20, 2017 by SandMartin

[eelcoool]

I would love a f-111

 

 

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[jackmckay]

Hey this is OT but since there are often quite a bit of general misunderstanding of how EFMs work in DCS I encourage everyone interested to check out the source code of CptSmileys F-16 or the accompanying NASA papers:

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=74365&share_tid=95985&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Eeagle%2Eru%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D95985&share_type=t

 

 

Hell Yeah. This is what I meant. Didn't know about his thread but from my perspective that was the ONLY way to make quality FM away of HPC or cluster computing. Interpolation of table charts gained by CFD processing incorporated in realtime engine is mother of serious flight sim. Condition that is a MUST is that every module(missile) has to be tested on same CFD engine settings to give correlated and comparable results. Looking forward to see what CaptSmiley has been done up to 100 pages of posts.

 

My rig: i7 3970X(50GB/sec transfer), 32GB RAM, RAID SSD 512GB(2x256), QuadroK4000, TeslaK20C(2TB/sec transfer).. its CFD GP-GPU HPC configuration.

[Montes]

Hawkeye Hawkeye

[flybull]

@SandMartin.....+1 on an F-16A....Especially IDFAF F-16....but they were block 5/10s, not 15s

[Robert31178]

"Another 2 seat Grumman....."

 

Fingers crossed for a Drumstick!!

[Lupson]

Guess threads are fun.

 

What about the A32 Lansen? Two-seat, has some kind of ground mapping/nav radar and it was the original delivery platform for the Rb04. So a lot of reuse of heatblur tech.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_32_Lansen

 

Though I guess it's even more obscure than the Viggen, so commercially it doesn't really make that much sense.

[WHOGX5]

Hawkeye Hawkeye

 

This! Imagine doing traps with E-2/C-2's. Gawd! Plus, as I've mentioned before, we would get both our first AWACS aircraft, but also our first dedicated transport. So much to do!!!! It's less work than an 707, plus someone needs to guide those AIM-54's after the turkey pilots get a little shaky and start extending at 80nm! :joystick:

 

[fritzchris]

Saab 35 Draken

 

http://www.airpower.gv.at/en/aircraft/historic-aircraft/saab-35-draken.html

[QuiGon]

Guys, remember:

We're working on another complex jet which will make good use of our own technologies

That doesn't sound like a Hawkeye or a Draken to me.

[Montes]

jeje

[Mig Fulcrum]

I think the three candidates are:

 

Panavia Tornado (sweep-wing, Jester AI, AG Radar, thrust reverse)

F-111 (sweep-wing, Jester AI, AG Radar)

Mig-23 (sweep-wing, RAZBAM stop doing it maybe 'couse Heatblur has it in its roadmap)

Edited October 16, 2017 by Mig Fulcrum

[muamshai]

Mig-23

Su-17/22 (It was being developed by some other dude independently I guess)

 

 

or this:

 

[OnlyforDCS]

Once the Tomcat is released I can die happy. I don't care what comes afterwards, it can't ever be as good as the Tomcat. ;)