strike277 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Is it possible to change out the DB15 connector on the Cougar TQS to a standard USB 2 cable? Or a cheaper alternative to the Realsim Adaptor? Your Search-Fu is far better than mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 No, the Throttle has no electronics inside, you need to connect it to a TM Cougar Joystick, or purchase one of these: http://realsimulator.com/html/tusba.html For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Yes, rewire is possible, easy and cheap - depends on your DIY skill.* You need a ~$6 Arduino PRO Micro + MMjoy2 firmware. Could do a external rewire - TUSBA style: Or do a more elegant re-wire placing the controller inside.. http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2016/03/full-35902-119220-13.jpg Can use TLE5010/11 contacless sensor in digital mode or GVL224 MagREZ contacless sensor in analog mode, or DIY HALL sensor assembly with Allegro A1324, Honeywell SS495A1 TQS buttons/HAT's is connected through a 4x4 diode matrix. * If don't have skill, TUSBA 1 or 2 has good price for a "PnP" solution. Edited November 8, 2019 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwell Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Or Uri_Ba PCB: https://pit.uriba.org/uriba/standalone-cougar-tqs-part-i/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stulee Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Hi, It looks easy to do. I have CH Products F-16 Fighterstick (DB15) and my question is ... may I do the same way? But I do not have orginal joystick wire pinout. All the best, Stulee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) It looks easy to do. I have CH Products F-16 Fighterstick (DB15) and my question is ... may I do the same way? But I do not have orginal joystick wire pinout. Yes, is the same thing. But in CH F-16 Fightestick (DB-15) you need fit the controller inside and connect their axes potentiometer adding a 3rd wire in each (GnD, Signal, +5V), why you can't use the DB-15 connector, this don't have pins for this 3rd wire in pot. In this old DB-15 (gameport) joystick potentiometer is wired as resistance and use 2 wires. In modern USB controller potentiomter is wired as voltage variation and use 3 wires. The (Fighterstick) grip connector is for 5x4 Matrix, so don't need make changes inside grip, only match this 5x4 Matrix connector in cable coming from grip with the matrix input of USB controller used. Edited November 22, 2017 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stulee Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Thanks a lot! You are great man, Sokol1_br! The last my question: is the same pinout for TQS FLCS and Cougar one? Stulee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 No, F16FLCS/F22PRO TQS is different from Cougar - has more electronics inside and diferent wiring, Cougar TQS is "brainless" - rely on electronics on Cougar joystick. Other difference is the device under thumb, is Cougar is a analog mini-stick + press button (PS3 like), in F16FLCS/F22PRO is a kind of mouse (similar to old IBM laptops mouse) and due lack orf support in USB controllers available for DIY need be replaced with mini-stick, or HAT, e.g. Alps 4+1 switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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