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What about the HUD ?

I can read the HUD now in 2.2 against bright background and the sun.

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I can read the HUD now in 2.2 against bright background and the sun.

 

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So again, to clarify, is fm/engine fixed so its not a ufo-glider and closer to irl stats/behavior?

 

Edit: or just the new fm with all its flaws?

Edit2: Nvm, https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3319865&postcount=293


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Very good update. I tested it yesterday on 2.2, that's very good. Just a question...

 

I understood that we have to press reset button (below the FBW limiter switch) to reset trim. But that is the appropriate joystick control ?

 

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If you updated to 2.2 all the new stuff should be in. Presently testing on TTS server 2.2 and confirmed

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So again, to clarify, is fm/engine fixed so its not a ufo-glider and closer to irl stats/behavior?

 

Edit: or just the new fm with all its flaws?

Edit2: Nvm, https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3319865&postcount=293

 

Just flew it for the first time after 2.2 update and to me it feels different to 1.5.8 (ufo-glider). I did no real "tests" with charts/numbers by the book but my guts say it´s "ok". Not sure what you mean with "all it´s flaws"? :cry:

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Just flew it for the first time after 2.2 update and to me it feels different to 1.5.8 (ufo-glider). I did no real "tests" with charts/numbers by the book but my guts say it´s "ok". Not sure what you mean with "all it´s flaws"? :cry:

 

No you are right, something is different. In a good way. Now it does drops and stalls if you go below speed. You can do the high G turns and bleed speed like you expect in Deltas.

Haven't done any test but at least it feels better.

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Yes, CDV REARM or something like that.

But in flight you would rather engage AP to trim to new conditions. It does trim pitch + roll.

Yaw trim is constantly performed by FBW.

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Hi Folks,

 

I must admit that the only remaining point is now slowing down and breaking the plane. I did a major error by transfering the config to the new version and it's a really a good idea to reset the axis control to default ! Now it behaves smoothly :) Great !

 

Now we just need a little bit more of efficiency in breaking, especially in flight.

 

 

Finally a great improvement, thanks to Rzabam !

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Hi,

 

I quite disappointed by the flight model change. From 200 knots, there is no damping anymore and the aircraft seems to fly a simple flight model (or like a train)!

 

I am not a fighter pilot, but I am flying civilian aircraft, 777 and 737.

 

Having flying the 777 with electronic flight control, there is always a quite few damping effect (I mean, when releasing the flight control, the aircraft take few time to stop the induced mouvement), because an aircraft just fly in the air.

 

This is exactly the opposite in the latest M2000 flight model change.

 

I understand that a public flight simulator cannot reproduce exactly a real flight model, but I have corrected a lot of flight model in FS9 and X, P3D and X-Plane. Adding some damping effect in flight controls give a real sensation of flying.

 

So, please, correct that for the next time.

 

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HELP. I can’t land the Mirage anymore after the recent change!!! It seems I have to land at like 220 knots to keep the hud AoA markets correct otherwise it just seems to bomb. Is there a new procedure to land correctly please. Cheers

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I don't want the M2000 FM to look like the 777, that's not the point.

 

If you have the F-5, when you release the control in roll for example, the aircraft take 0.5 seconds, even less to stabilize.

 

That should be the same with any aircraft, proportinally to its design and flight control system.

 

The M2000 just stop suddenly to roll when you release the controls. This is not how an aircraft is flying, simply.

 

Just look at some cockpit footage of some M2000 in demo, and you will see.

 

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I don't want the M2000 FM to look like the 777, that's not the point.

 

If you have the F-5, when you release the control in roll for example, the aircraft take 0.5 seconds, even less to stabilize.

 

That should be the same with any aircraft, proportinally to its design and flight control system.

 

The M2000 just stop suddenly to roll when you release the controls. This is not how an aircraft is flying, simply.

 

Just look at some cockpit footage of some M2000 in demo, and you will see.

 

Cheers,

 

Could you supply some links please? I had problems finding videos of the 2000-C where stick position and roll ratio are clearly visible the same time.

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There is no need to compare the stick position and the aircraft movement, this is just aerodynamically how an aircraft is moving in the air.

 

Look at this one, at the very beginning when the aircraft is rlling on the right (I thing the pilot is not using the full deflection of its stick) :

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mirage+2000+HUD

 

Clearly, the aircraft does not stop rolling suddently.

 

On this one, from 3:52, it is quite evident too :

 

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There is no need to compare the stick position and the aircraft movement, this is just aerodynamically how an aircraft is moving in the air.

 

Look at this one, at the very beginning when the aircraft is rlling on the right (I thing the pilot is not using the full deflection of its stick) :

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mirage+2000+HUD

 

Clearly, the aircraft does not stop rolling suddently.

 

On this one, from 3:52, it is quite evident too :

 

 

Hmm, the first is a list with mainly HUD displays, the second video can't be viewed from 3:52 because it's only 3:52 long...

 

And yes, there is a need to compare the stick position otherwise you don't know if the pilot maybe gives short inputs for correction or countersteers which can be quiet common in demo flights


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