Britchot Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I am unable to select the AN/AAQ-28(V) LITENING targeting pod on stations 2 or 6 (in 1.5.8 stable) as the following pictures show should be available. Is this an oversight or an upgrade not supported on this simulated model? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CPU - Intel 8088 @ 4.77 MHz; Memory - 128KB; 360KB double-sided 5 1/4" full-height floppy disk drive; 10MB Seagate ST-412 hard drive JG-1 MiG-21bis Checklist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 First time I see the TPOD on stations 2 and 6. We'll check. 2 "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 First time I see the TPOD on stations 2 and 6. We'll check. Thanks Zeus! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CPU - Intel 8088 @ 4.77 MHz; Memory - 128KB; 360KB double-sided 5 1/4" full-height floppy disk drive; 10MB Seagate ST-412 hard drive JG-1 MiG-21bis Checklist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 That was the original load for the Harrier when the Litening entered in service with the USMC. Only later the Harrier was wired to use the TPOD in the center pylon. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 That was the original load for the Harrier when the Litening entered in service with the USMC. Only later the Harrier was wired to use the TPOD in the center pylon. The original load was STA 5 only. The other stations were incorporated later. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Yes. you are right, i miss the numbers 2 and 6 in the first post. I thought that was station 5 on the pics XDDD Sorry Zeus. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonGhost Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 One of the Quick Start missions that shipped with the Harrier, the one that mentions that it is the start up tutorial for the Hornet, comes with the targeting pod mounted on the right wing by default. I still have the .miz file if anyone needs it. i7-7700K @ 5.2Ghz SLI 1080Ti 64GB GSkill Trident Z RGB 4133 Asus Maximus IX Extreme Custom Water Cooling Loop TM Warthog/ MFG Crosswind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Personally I prefer the center line for the TPOD. Every other station robs you of a perfectly good place to hang a bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 On wing station is easier to lase targets without masking the pod. The TPOD update make it look like laser is working although looks like is not finish. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarma Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Yea but on wing station you have to carry a none-usable GBU12 to balance the plane. So two stations lost. i9 9900k, 64 Go RAM, RTX 4090, Warthog HOTAS Throttle & Stick, Saitek Combat Rudder, MFD Cougar, Trackir 5 Pro, Multipurpose UFC and Oculus Rift S (when I want some VR), http://www.twitch.tv/zarma4074 / https://www.youtube.com/user/Zarma4074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 The Marines in Afghanistan where using the wing mounted litening with one live GBU-12 or GBU-54 on the other wing for years without problem, plus x2 fuel tanks and the gun. There is no need for inert bombs " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfK33 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I think he meant "non-usable" in that you can´t use it because you need it to balance the plane, not "non-usable" as inert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Thats incorrect. Is perfectly possible to fly and fight with the Litening pod in one wing and a missing launched bomb in the other. As i said, Marines in Afghanistan where doing exactly that until the center pylon was wired for the Tpod. PD: This asymmetric limitation was for the LHD based Harriers ( solved sometimes loading a sidewinder on the opposite wing ). They need to land vertical so the asymmetric load was a problem until the center pylon was wired, but for Kandahar based Harriers no limitation at all to use wing Tpod and GBU or Mavs. Plenty of missions, pics and documents related to that can be find. Edited December 23, 2017 by Esac_mirmidon " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Yea but on wing station you have to carry a none-usable GBU12 to balance the plane. So two stations lost. Here is several shots of AV8B carrying the the pod the wing and one shot of the Harrier landing vertical with the Tpod on the wing and no counter balance except a TER Also note how almost all video with a bomb impact is with the HTS mode of the Tpod. Also http://www.seaforces.org/usmcair/VMA/VMA-223_DAT/VMA-223-photo-073.jpg http://www.seaforces.org/usmcair/VMA/VMA-214_DAT/VMA-214-photo-059.jpg https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/av8b_20070531.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/US_Navy_100917-N-5538K-077_An_AV-8B_Harrier_jet_aircraft_assigned_to_Marine_Attack_Squadron_%28VMA%29_542_prepares_to_land_aboard_the_forward-deployed.jpg/1280px-US_Navy_100917-N-5538K-077_An_AV-8B_Harrier_jet_aircraft_assigned_to_Marine_Attack_Squadron_%28VMA%29_542_prepares_to_land_aboard_the_forward-deployed.jpg 2 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I would take the center pylon solely already because it seems to have less fuselage blocking view to sides, while either wing station will block the other side. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I wondered that in the pocket manual it is so clearly warned not to never release the "counter weight" bomb, as I just wondered how it can be so serious flaw. I could understand that in optimal situation you don't release it but leave it as last bomb to be dropped. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al531246 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Also note how almost all video with a bomb impact is with the HTS mode of the Tpod. What is HTS Mode? The only thing I can think of is 'HARM Targeting System' but that's a separate device from the TGP. Intel i5-8600k | EVGA RTX 3070 | Windows 10 | 32GB RAM @3600 MHz | 500 GB Samsung 850 SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) What is HTS Mode? The only thing I can think of is 'HARM Targeting System' but that's a separate device from the TGP. From A1-AV8BB-TAC-000 1.18.4.4.3 TPOD HOTAS Control Mode (HTS). The HTS mode is available when the TPOD primary display page is displayed, and HOTAS control is assigned to the TPOD. HOTAS control is assigned to the TPOD by double clicking SSS−down in less than 0.8 second. The pod provides an indication of HOTAS assignment to the TPOD by replacing the current legend (TDC or TDC) with the HTS legend. See Figure 1−286. In the HTS mode, the TPOD slews pod sensors in direct response to TDC slew commands. Slew rates are up to 1.2 FOVs/ second. In this mode, the TPOD reacts to all assigned HOTAS commands, including applicable HOTAS controls in the TPOD master modes. TPOD HOTAS controls are listed in Figure 1−259, and shown in Figures 1−260 and 1−261. NOTE When in HTS mode, pressing the TDC does not set an aircraft system designation. To refine the aircraft system designation when in the HTS mode, HTS is deselected by again double clicking the SSS−down in less than 0.8 second. The pod returns to the previous PB 14 displayed mode, TDC or TDC, and tracks the aircraft designated target. This allows the pilot to refine the aircraft system designation using TDC aircraft sensor slewing, and then double clicking the SSS−down to return to HTS. The TPOD can be returned to the previous control mode by double clicking SSS−down in less than 0.8 second, which exits HTS and select the previous PB 14 displayed mode (TDC or TDC). PB 14 is non−operative with the HTS legend displayed, and pressing PB 14 has no effect on the state of HOTAS control. The HTS mode is exited when a TPOD format is no longer displayed on either MPCD, however, HTS is reestablished with return to the TPOD format display within 15 seconds of TPOD display exit. If return to the TPOD format display is initiated after expiration of the 15−second grace period, the TDC default mode is entered and TDC replaces the PB 14 HTS legend. The HTS mode is also exited with selection of SSS−forward, which, if in A/G, VSTOL or NAV master modes, selects air−to−ground ranging for radar aircraft or selects the INS sensor mode for night attack aircraft; SSS−forward in A/A master mode selects aircraft boresight; or selecting STOP or MENU exits the HTS mode. Edited December 23, 2017 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 TkXepsWlFPw?start=336 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 First time I see the TPOD on stations 2 and 6. We'll check. I attempted to select the TPOD on station 6 this weekend and it is still unavailable. What was the final determination of the possibility? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CPU - Intel 8088 @ 4.77 MHz; Memory - 128KB; 360KB double-sided 5 1/4" full-height floppy disk drive; 10MB Seagate ST-412 hard drive JG-1 MiG-21bis Checklist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 I was hoping to see some update to this issue, albeit small. Are we abandoning the change or has it fallen to the back-burner? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CPU - Intel 8088 @ 4.77 MHz; Memory - 128KB; 360KB double-sided 5 1/4" full-height floppy disk drive; 10MB Seagate ST-412 hard drive JG-1 MiG-21bis Checklist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 There's at least one preset loadout that has the TPOD on a wing station, if I'm not mistaken. I recall flying a mission with it and the ECM pod not long ago. Black Shark, Harrier, and Hornet pilot Many Words - Serial Fiction | Ka-50 Employment Guide | Ka-50 Avionics Cheat Sheet | Multiplayer Shooting Range Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I am unable to select the AN/AAQ-28(V) LITENING targeting pod on stations 2 or 6 (in 1.5.8 stable) as the following pictures show should be available. Is this an oversight or an upgrade not supported on this simulated model? Okay, here's the deal: Stations 2 and 6 are valid attachment points, but they are no longer used. That is why the TACMAN we have only indicates Station 3 and 5. Station 4 was added later. No problem. I'll add the TPOD to Stations 2 and 6. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 So it was an operational change made later, good to know. Thank you for making the change, Zeus. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CPU - Intel 8088 @ 4.77 MHz; Memory - 128KB; 360KB double-sided 5 1/4" full-height floppy disk drive; 10MB Seagate ST-412 hard drive JG-1 MiG-21bis Checklist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britchot Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 Thank you for completing this correction. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CPU - Intel 8088 @ 4.77 MHz; Memory - 128KB; 360KB double-sided 5 1/4" full-height floppy disk drive; 10MB Seagate ST-412 hard drive JG-1 MiG-21bis Checklist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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