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I can confirm the pipper worked fine as a long as i have the module.

A difference of 85 m/s (306 km/h!) compared to the 29 can have a big impact.

 

Hellyjumper, there is always hope :) :

 

Daniel, you could read some articles or manuals on how to employ air to air guns. Even WW2 tactics can be used.

 

Some minor advice:

It is important to know what lead, direct and lag pursuit is. In a turn fight you have to fly lag pursuit to get in a firing position. Once there you have to fly lead to get the pipper on target. In the video you always fly lead or direct pursuit when not forced otherwise by low altitude. You also state that you "outturned the bandit" but actually he did by employing air brakes and forcing you to overshoot. He got back some advantage. Luckily for you he was unable to use it and tried to do a snapshot with a Fox 2 (way to close) that missed you. In his attempt he gets so slow that he is unable to recover the plane.

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Also spiddx you're joking. That time frame 3:17, see how AMAZINGLY FAST SUDDENLY the gun circle is moving towards target only starting at 600 (feet? the distance measurement number on bottom right of HUD) distance and closer...

 

 

That's because you stopped pulling so many Gs and the bandit is basically stationary in relation to you because of his braking maneuver.

 

Try this: (you can set up a simple scenario in SP, no need for MP because it works exactly the same)

When you think you are in a good position, pull and lead your opponent with the snake and then ease up on the stick (less G!) to let the pipper catch up. Fire when it is over the target. Works for me every time.

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The gun pipper is lagging WAYYYYYY behind, but I understand that you guys don't realize it. As long as RAZBAM fixes this (gun pipper line going left right lagging around like crazy AND gun pipper circle only refreshing every freaking 500 ms, how lame is this, did the Mirage 2000 use an Intel 8080 or wtf???) until end of january, I am happy :)....

Because you don't undestand how it works -> it's buggy??? That's some logic! I really hope the F-14 is not on your wish list or you have to ask heatblur to add a HUD overclock feature in the special tabs just for you! :music_whistling:

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Can you please STOP reporting everything which is not according to your likes as a bug?

Get the knowledge or ASK before you report something again and again and again......

 

And additionally, are you a high paying customer? Do you pay each programmer in person? A whole salary? I just ask because in Every request you put a deadline beside your "asap!!!" demand - especially during holiday season.

 

I'm sorry, but I just had to say this, the topics created by you are just in a.... High frequency ;)

I like your enthusiasm, Really, without guys like you bug hunting is really time consuming - but please change the way you state it ;)

 

Please try not to be offended too much, that's only what I wanted to say regarding this "topic flood" :D

 

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Can you please STOP reporting everything which is not according to your likes as a bug?

Get the knowledge or ASK before you report something again and again and again......

 

And additionally, are you a high paying customer? Do you pay each programmer in person? A whole salary? I just ask because in Every request you put a deadline beside your "asap!!!" demand - especially during holiday season.

 

I'm sorry, but I just had to say this, the topics created by you are just in a.... High frequency ;)

I like your enthusiasm, Really, without guys like you bug hunting is really time consuming - but please change the way you state it ;)

 

Please try not to be offended too much, that's only what I wanted to say regarding this "topic flood" :D

 

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Ok then the bug are the tracers. I see the tracers going STRAIGHT into the bandit but no, no hits... (MULTIPLAYER with 200 ping)

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  • 2 weeks later...
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So there hasn't been a Razbam reply yet, has there? (about real life M2000C gun pipper refresh rate in ms)

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Posted

Helljumper but PIC is not the radar locked mode right? And you also think this is not 2000C but another version right?

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@myHelljumper: In this video the radar is never locked on target, only the Magic. We can briefly see a radar close combat mode reticle, but it is canceled very fast, maybe an accidental push on the stick button. Outside of commonly agreed exercise, a fire control radar lock on foreign fighter (or ship or whatever) is considered an hostile act and is serious issue.

Maybe you were talking about "snake" update rate?

 

@DanielNL: This video is a Greek Mirage 2000EG with RDM radar probably dogfighting with Turkish F-16.

But being Mirage 2000C RDI, Mirage 2000E RDM or Mirage 2000-5 RDY the AA gun symbology is pretty much the same.

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yes nice spot! yes the locked gun pipper refresh rate is totally fine in DCS, but the issue is it's positioning in DCS multiplayer (when me and my target both have a 100-150 ms ping for example). I even managed to hit a bandit really close, although at that moment the gun pipper was lagging wayyyy at bottom of HUD...

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PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

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yes nice spot! yes the locked gun pipper refresh rate is totally fine in DCS, but the issue is it's positioning in DCS multiplayer (when me and my target both have a 100-150 ms ping for example). I even managed to hit a bandit really close, although at that moment the gun pipper was lagging wayyyy at bottom of HUD...

 

The piper is not predictive that is why it was lagging behind. Learn to use it and you will see that is work as it should.

Helljumper - M2000C Guru

 

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  • 3 months later...
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guys. Really?

 

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DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

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Posted

Ok what was your ping on the server? Mine was 200.

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PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

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Posted

1440, not bad :) oh wait, 1070 anyways :P

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DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

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1440, not bad :) oh wait, 1070 anyways :P

 

Thanks, I just realised I need to update my sig. Oh wait, what does this have to do with your "bug report"?

 

Ok what was your ping on the server? Mine was 200.

 

I thought you don't need my help anymore?

Posted

I don't, Razbam does (to fix the pipper in multiplayer).

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PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

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Posted
I don't, Razbam does (to fix the pipper in multiplayer).

 

Have you ever considered it to be an user error as everyone who replied here does not have the problem with the pipper but you?

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