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Not sure if It's a bug,Canopy Issues.


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Sorry if this is the wrong area to post but i wasn't sure.

Hi this is the canopy in V 1.5.8

 

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And this is V 2.2

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The 1.5.8 is really distracting it makes it hard to see targets on the ground not to mention incoming missiles and ground fire.In both versions i have lens effects set on None.I can post screen shots of my system settings if that helps.

MODULES: A10C Warthog,AH-64 D APACHE,AJS Viggen,AV8B Harrier,BF109 K4,C101 Aviojet,F14 Tomcat,F15E Eagle,F16 Viper,F5 Tiger,F86 Sabre,FA18C Hornet,FW190A8,FW190D9,I16 Ishak,JF17 Thunder,KA50 Blackshark,L39Albatros,Mirage2000C,Mirage F-1,MI24P,MI8MVT2,MIG15BIS,MIG19P,MIG21BIS,Mosquito FB VI,P51D Mustang,P47D Thunderbolt,SA342 Gazell,SpitfireIX,TF51D,UH1H Huey,Yak52.

OTHER:Flamming cliffs,Combined Arms,WW2 Assets Pack,SuperCarrier.

TERRAINS: Nevada,Caucasus,Normandy,Persian Gulf,Syria,Channel,Marianas. 

 

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Ok i have watched numerous you tube videos and live streams this isn't normal.Is there a way i can uninstall the module and reinstall? Has anyone else had this problem.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

MODULES: A10C Warthog,AH-64 D APACHE,AJS Viggen,AV8B Harrier,BF109 K4,C101 Aviojet,F14 Tomcat,F15E Eagle,F16 Viper,F5 Tiger,F86 Sabre,FA18C Hornet,FW190A8,FW190D9,I16 Ishak,JF17 Thunder,KA50 Blackshark,L39Albatros,Mirage2000C,Mirage F-1,MI24P,MI8MVT2,MIG15BIS,MIG19P,MIG21BIS,Mosquito FB VI,P51D Mustang,P47D Thunderbolt,SA342 Gazell,SpitfireIX,TF51D,UH1H Huey,Yak52.

OTHER:Flamming cliffs,Combined Arms,WW2 Assets Pack,SuperCarrier.

TERRAINS: Nevada,Caucasus,Normandy,Persian Gulf,Syria,Channel,Marianas. 

 

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If it doesn't still happen in the merge.My understanding is the merge uses both installations of 1.5 and 2.2.Very frustrating indeed.Thank you for the reply though i appreciate it.

MODULES: A10C Warthog,AH-64 D APACHE,AJS Viggen,AV8B Harrier,BF109 K4,C101 Aviojet,F14 Tomcat,F15E Eagle,F16 Viper,F5 Tiger,F86 Sabre,FA18C Hornet,FW190A8,FW190D9,I16 Ishak,JF17 Thunder,KA50 Blackshark,L39Albatros,Mirage2000C,Mirage F-1,MI24P,MI8MVT2,MIG15BIS,MIG19P,MIG21BIS,Mosquito FB VI,P51D Mustang,P47D Thunderbolt,SA342 Gazell,SpitfireIX,TF51D,UH1H Huey,Yak52.

OTHER:Flamming cliffs,Combined Arms,WW2 Assets Pack,SuperCarrier.

TERRAINS: Nevada,Caucasus,Normandy,Persian Gulf,Syria,Channel,Marianas. 

 

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Look at the first picture(aka 1.5.8 version) It has serious graphic scratches /anomalies on the canopy and the second picture has a perfect crystal clear canopy (aka 2.2 version) .It is the only plane i have that has this on the canopy and i have all the planes and helicopters except the hawk module.It doesn't matter where i start in the plane at whatever airfield in the caucus map the canopy looks like that.It looks terrible and i want it clear like every body else on you tube on twitch and my friends who play.I just tried uninstalling all liveries for it and deleting the module via module manager and reinstalling it. And it is back the same way.

MODULES: A10C Warthog,AH-64 D APACHE,AJS Viggen,AV8B Harrier,BF109 K4,C101 Aviojet,F14 Tomcat,F15E Eagle,F16 Viper,F5 Tiger,F86 Sabre,FA18C Hornet,FW190A8,FW190D9,I16 Ishak,JF17 Thunder,KA50 Blackshark,L39Albatros,Mirage2000C,Mirage F-1,MI24P,MI8MVT2,MIG15BIS,MIG19P,MIG21BIS,Mosquito FB VI,P51D Mustang,P47D Thunderbolt,SA342 Gazell,SpitfireIX,TF51D,UH1H Huey,Yak52.

OTHER:Flamming cliffs,Combined Arms,WW2 Assets Pack,SuperCarrier.

TERRAINS: Nevada,Caucasus,Normandy,Persian Gulf,Syria,Channel,Marianas. 

 

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This picture perfectly shows the problem.

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MODULES: A10C Warthog,AH-64 D APACHE,AJS Viggen,AV8B Harrier,BF109 K4,C101 Aviojet,F14 Tomcat,F15E Eagle,F16 Viper,F5 Tiger,F86 Sabre,FA18C Hornet,FW190A8,FW190D9,I16 Ishak,JF17 Thunder,KA50 Blackshark,L39Albatros,Mirage2000C,Mirage F-1,MI24P,MI8MVT2,MIG15BIS,MIG19P,MIG21BIS,Mosquito FB VI,P51D Mustang,P47D Thunderbolt,SA342 Gazell,SpitfireIX,TF51D,UH1H Huey,Yak52.

OTHER:Flamming cliffs,Combined Arms,WW2 Assets Pack,SuperCarrier.

TERRAINS: Nevada,Caucasus,Normandy,Persian Gulf,Syria,Channel,Marianas. 

 

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Look at the first picture(aka 1.5.8 version) It has serious graphic scratches /anomalies on the canopy and the second picture has a perfect crystal clear canopy (aka 2.2 version) .It is the only plane i have that has this on the canopy and i have all the planes and helicopters except the hawk module.It doesn't matter where i start in the plane at whatever airfield in the caucus map the canopy looks like that.It looks terrible and i want it clear like every body else on you tube on twitch and my friends who play.I just tried uninstalling all liveries for it and deleting the module via module manager and reinstalling it. And it is back the same way.
Most the modules have this on the canopy. As to why it's more visible on your installation I have no idea as it's nowhere near that bad on my computer.
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Most the modules have this on the canopy.

 

Exactly. But as mentioned already, in a few weeks the good old TFCSE will be buried and since the new engine doesn't have that issue as well as many others, there's no need to fix it anymore dealwithit.png

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To be fair, the effect of reflection on the crazes is wildly depending on the angle and in the original two comparison screenshots that is clearly not the same. They do appear quite visibly at one precise angle and go from there to barely noticeable rather quickly.

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Here's my 1.5.8 settings.

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MODULES: A10C Warthog,AH-64 D APACHE,AJS Viggen,AV8B Harrier,BF109 K4,C101 Aviojet,F14 Tomcat,F15E Eagle,F16 Viper,F5 Tiger,F86 Sabre,FA18C Hornet,FW190A8,FW190D9,I16 Ishak,JF17 Thunder,KA50 Blackshark,L39Albatros,Mirage2000C,Mirage F-1,MI24P,MI8MVT2,MIG15BIS,MIG19P,MIG21BIS,Mosquito FB VI,P51D Mustang,P47D Thunderbolt,SA342 Gazell,SpitfireIX,TF51D,UH1H Huey,Yak52.

OTHER:Flamming cliffs,Combined Arms,WW2 Assets Pack,SuperCarrier.

TERRAINS: Nevada,Caucasus,Normandy,Persian Gulf,Syria,Channel,Marianas. 

 

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Many of the planes I worked on and others where I’ve had the pleasure of sitting in the cockpit have this effect.

 

Not sure if there’s a limit to how bad it can be before the windscreen or canopy is replaced, but “crystal clear” is unusual imo.

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2.2 has it, it is just more subdued and seems to depend on lighting/sun angle/etc - i see it, fleetingly ----- i have a feeling 2.2 is the direction they are going with graphics - 2.2 is closer to 2.5 than what you see in 1.5 - in 2.5 it will be more like what we are currently seeing in 2.2

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2.2 looks fine on my system so i guess well just have to wait and see how 2.5 looks.I'm looking so forward to 2.5 it feels like Xmas all over again.:)

MODULES: A10C Warthog,AH-64 D APACHE,AJS Viggen,AV8B Harrier,BF109 K4,C101 Aviojet,F14 Tomcat,F15E Eagle,F16 Viper,F5 Tiger,F86 Sabre,FA18C Hornet,FW190A8,FW190D9,I16 Ishak,JF17 Thunder,KA50 Blackshark,L39Albatros,Mirage2000C,Mirage F-1,MI24P,MI8MVT2,MIG15BIS,MIG19P,MIG21BIS,Mosquito FB VI,P51D Mustang,P47D Thunderbolt,SA342 Gazell,SpitfireIX,TF51D,UH1H Huey,Yak52.

OTHER:Flamming cliffs,Combined Arms,WW2 Assets Pack,SuperCarrier.

TERRAINS: Nevada,Caucasus,Normandy,Persian Gulf,Syria,Channel,Marianas. 

 

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If any aircraft I had worked on in the past had crazing like that, it would be grounded. Scratches & dinks, and some micro crazing yes, but not 3mm wide cracks all over the windscreen & canopy. You can edit the normal map that is used for this (and just about everything else) to tone it down or remove it completely, but it's far better to have the default setting look right. The bitmap used is tiled to create the effect, so maybe it's just that the tiling is not fine enough, or maybe it just needs to be higher res, with finer lines.

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Many of the planes I worked on and others where I’ve had the pleasure of sitting in the cockpit have this effect.

 

Not sure if there’s a limit to how bad it can be before the windscreen or canopy is replaced, but “crystal clear” is unusual imo.

 

I agree, I like the effect. Early morning, sun is barely coming up, cleaning the canopy and waiting for the pilot that is how the canopy look like. Once the sun was high enough you could not see them tho. Sometimes at night, with light from the right angle was the same.

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My canopy looks as scratched in both versions now.

 

I know peolpe love the realism but I hate it and I'm happy to pretend mines just been replaced if anyone has a solution to remove it?

 

Night time is worse but for those who have trouble spotting anyway it just compounds the problem.

 

Regards,

 

Gary

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I agree, Gary - mostly on night ops - which is what this particular version is supposed to be Boss at - the scratches refracting the light make it just impossible to recognise anything out that side of the canopy.

 

I do feel it is overdone, as it also affects daylight vision and thought it is a very long time since I flew an RAF single, if the vision had been that bad I would remember it - and the aircraft I flew were very old.

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