Nightvision?

[Nosferatuwhisky 1-1]

I’ve not seen anything in relation to having noghtvision like it seems the AV-8 has.

 

Is this planned for the Hornet ?

[ICS_Vortex]

I’ve not seen anything in relation to having noghtvision like it seems the AV-8 has.

 

If u're talking about NFLIR - then yes, Hornet provides NFLIR video on the HUD.

In case, if ATFLIR is present.

 

As I remember, somebody from ED TEAM already told in ATFLIR topic, that it's planned.

Might be wrong.

Edited January 24, 2018 by ICS_Vortex

[Nosferatuwhisky 1-1]

Yeah I was wondering about goggles for the pilot, rather than just on the HUD or displays.

[ICS_Vortex]

Yeah I was wondering about goggles for the pilot, rather than just on the HUD or displays.

aa...ok

[Guest]

This might be dumb but... what's the difference between ATFLIR, NFLIR, LANTIRN, etc.

 

I know what they stand for, but not sure what the real differences are.

 

 

Thanks.

[kobeshow]

as far as I know we will get nightvision, there was much ado about the lack of black panels in early development pics, which has been rectified by now

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3269888&postcount=26

 

and apart from that I think it has been confirmed very early on in development

[Wags]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3285514&postcount=13

[Nosferatuwhisky 1-1]

Thanks Wags! Idk why I didn’t see that before!

 

I’m so excited for this module I had my throttle for my Hotas shipped to London from the US!

[Pyroflash]

Since the F/A-18C is getting NVG's, will the F-15C get its much needed set?

[Alfa]

as far as I know we will get nightvision, there was much ado about the lack of black panels in early development pics, which has been rectified by now

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3269888&postcount=26

 

There is a lot more to the NVG compatibility than just the black wall panels - the entire cockpit(new HUD, DDIs, MPCD, panel and stand-by instrument lighting etc) was modified for this with the Night Attack version(from Lot 12 and up).

[Kev2go]

This might be dumb but... what's the difference between ATFLIR, NFLIR, LANTIRN, etc.

 

I know what they stand for, but not sure what the real differences are.

 

 

Thanks.

 

Older targeting pods. Lantirn was a US Air force Targeting pod introduced in the 80s ( was also used by the US navy on the F14B of the late 80s and theF14D)

 

whilst the Nitehawk pod was a US navy TGP for the Hornet of 80s- 90s period. Worse quality than Lantirn. BAd enough than in 2003 OIF Hornets relied on Tomcats when possible with thier Lantirns for targeting and confirmation that the target was indeed an enemy.

 

 

 

The AtFLir was introduced into service in the 2000s . is currently in Service. Its of the same generation and comparable technology to the Lightening 2 TGP that the A10C has ( which replaced the lantirn and other aircraft like the F15E and F16C)

 

Atlfir is slightly worse but of comparable technology and Generation of the Lightening 2 in Use by the USAF and USMC. Its capabilties are said to be a "quantum leap" over the Nitehawk.

[probad]

The AtFLir was introduced into service in the 2000s . is currently in Service. Its of the same generation and comparable technology to the Lightening 2 TGP that the A10C has ( which replaced the lantirn and other aircraft like the F15E and F16C)

 

Atlfir is slightly worse but of comparable technology and Generation of the Lightening 2

 

Lockheed Martin = LANTIRN -> SNIPER

Raytheon = ATFLIR

Rafael/NorthropGrumman = LITENING

 

what does "worse" here mean?

Edited January 26, 2018 by probad

[Kev2go]

Lockheed Martin = LANTIRN -> SNIPER

Raytheon = ATFLIR

Rafael/NorthropGrumman = LITENING

 

what does "worse" here mean?

 

This was a comment from a concluded report of a study between the l2 and atflir that the usmc conducted in 2006.

 

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA498288

Edited January 27, 2018 by Kev2go

[Guest]

Older targeting pods. Lantirn was a US Air force Targeting pod introduced in the 80s ( was also used by the US navy on the F14B of the late 80s and theF14D)

 

whilst the Nitehawk pod was a US navy TGP for the Hornet of 80s- 90s period. Worse quality than Lantirn. BAd enough than in 2003 OIF Hornets relied on Tomcats when possible with thier Lantirns for targeting and confirmation that the target was indeed an enemy.

 

 

 

The AtFLir was introduced into service in the 2000s . is currently in Service. Its of the same generation and comparable technology to the Lightening 2 TGP that the A10C has ( which replaced the lantirn and other aircraft like the F15E and F16C)

 

Atlfir is slightly worse but of comparable technology and Generation of the Lightening 2 in Use by the USAF and USMC. Its capabilties are said to be a "quantum leap" over the Nitehawk.

Thanks man!

 

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[kobeshow]

There is a lot more to the NVG compatibility than just the black wall panels - the entire cockpit(new HUD, DDIs, MPCD, panel and stand-by instrument lighting etc) was modified for this with the Night Attack version(from Lot 12 and up).

 

that is so interesting, please tell me more and be as specific as possible

[Pyroflash]

Pure fighter guys don't use them. The F-15E community yeah, peace they're air 2 ground, but the F-15C doesn't need it.

 

No one dogfights at night, it's just not safe.

 

That's incorrect. Many squadrons receive training on them for the F-15C. At least one, I can prove with a statement directly from the USAF.

 

http://www.jble.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/260998/

 

"The F-15 pilots face a different challenge. Their aircraft was not designed for night vision, so lights in the F-15 cockpit must be turned off. The smallest sliver of light can white out the goggles.

 

“You have to either turn off or tape over the lights you don’t need,” Captain Nyman said. “You also have limited depth perception with night vision goggles.”"

[Alfa]

that is so interesting, please tell me more and be as specific as possible

 

Well I don't know if I can be that more specific, but if you look at the initial F-18C(Lot 10 and 11) cockpit as it was introduced in 1987, you will be hard pressed to find much difference from an F-18A . It got the IFEI(integrated fuel and engine indicator) and new style UFC, but other than that it looked just like the F-18A cockpit.

 

With the introduction of the Night Attack version(Lot 12 from 1989), the F-18 got a much improved ability to conduct strike missions at night. In this connection the cockpit got a major upgrade - a lot of which had to do with NVG compatibility. In terms of displays, It got a new raster HUD, tri-color DDIs and the MPCD - all NVG compatible. The cockpit lighting system was modified for NVG compatible illumination of panels and standby gauges(certified for NVG use). On the INTR LT panel there is a switch that, when set to "NVG", keeps manual illumination adjustment within a NVG compatible regime(and some of the dials were changed with odd shapes - I assume in order to be able to find the right ones by feel). There is a storage box for the NVGs at the rear of RH console...and the wall covers were painted black :) .

[Alfa]

That's incorrect. Many squadrons receive training on them for the F-15C. At least one, I can prove with a statement directly from the USAF.

 

"The F-15 pilots face a different challenge. Their aircraft was not designed for night vision..."

 

No but the F-18C version being developed for DCS was, so that alone also makes it more needed for this than for the F-15C.

 

I am sure that you could find use of NVGs on pure fighter aircraft - e.g. for air refuelling at night, but USMC_Trev is right that its much more relevant for strike fighters such as the F/A-18C. I recall reading that F-18C squadrons are often specialising in particular tasks and that those which are operating primarily in the fighter role seldom carry the NVGs unless the specific mission calls for it.

[Ares63]

There is a way to move out NVG from the center of the screen?

like it is for the torch

 

it is very unconfortable to center the NVG with the line of sight because you have to focus the target with the center of the screen expecially when you have more then one screen it is impossible

Edited September 6, 2018 by Ares63