Lt.Seahawk Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Ive been flying the Viggen for quite a time now and love every second in it. However since the latest patch Ive noticed some weird changes. For example the speed to rotate with a full loadout was always around 270+-10 km/h now I need almost 400 to get her up and even then she climbs really slow like a heavily loaded Bomber (almost feels overloaded imho). Also when I fly her without burners at max RPM the speed doesnt climb over Mach .65 and as soon as I need to make a tighter turn I have to go into full burners in order to make a turn without stalling her. Landing also seems to be an issue now since I almost have to go into burner stage I to keep the landing AoA and speed. Is it just me experiencing this? Id rather ask in here just to make sure that its not a problem with my controls or something which I doubt is because Ive just checked them in the controls menue and all throttle axis seem to work just fine. :joystick: DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w
grunf Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 I noticed some changes too, mostly on takeoff as you mentioned. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the rudder is causing more roll than it used to.
Cobra847 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 The issue is that we did not expect a 1.5 patch at all prior to 2.5. What has happened is that a lift bug (that is fixed for the upcoming 2.5 release) has thus managed to make it's way into the latest 1.5 patch. We need to think about how to solve this (if at all) considering that 1.5 is now deprecated and we will not be supporting that branch anymore. Obviously leaving the Viggen broken if many people will continue to use that branch is less than ideal, however. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Lt.Seahawk Posted January 26, 2018 Author Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the reply Cobra, Im happy that it’s just a bug which will be fixed in 2.5, so I guess it’ll be small break from flying the Viggen until Wednesday then ;). Edited January 26, 2018 by Lt.Seahawk DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w
QuiGon Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) The issue is that we did not expect a 1.5 patch at all prior to 2.5. What has happened is that a lift bug (that is fixed for the upcoming 2.5 release) has thus managed to make it's way into the latest 1.5 patch. We need to think about how to solve this (if at all) considering that 1.5 is now deprecated and we will not be supporting that branch anymore. Obviously leaving the Viggen broken if many people will continue to use that branch is less than ideal, however. 1.5.8 is deprecated already? I thought there will still be at least one final 1.5.8 update for the stable release branch before the update to 2.5 happens. The stable release branch will still run officially on 1.5.8.x for at least two weeks, the steam version even longer. Edited January 26, 2018 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
deephack Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 The aircraft is not working correctly in the current stable version of the game. Surely at the least a manual hotfix could be provided? Viggen fanboys like me won't mind having to copy a file here or there ;-) https://www.youtube.com/user/deephack
nesher Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Maybe I am tired today but I don't get the previously replies. Am I correct to assume that the strange Viggen flight behaviour is present only in 1.5.8 Open Beta? Since 2.2 OA and 1.5.8 release didn't get any recent update. Or did I misunderstand something?
Lt.Seahawk Posted January 26, 2018 Author Posted January 26, 2018 That’s correct. It only affects 1.5.8 since that’s the only version that got updated. DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w
QuiGon Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 That’s correct. It only affects 1.5.8 since that’s the only version that got updated. 1.5.8 Open Beta! 1.5.8 Stable Release is still good. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Lt.Seahawk Posted January 26, 2018 Author Posted January 26, 2018 Oh yes of course! Sorry my bad. DCS F-14 Tomcat Alley Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ceS859w
grunf Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Anyone tried Viggen after today's update? It seems the lift issue has been fixed. :thumbup:
funkyfranky Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Uh, I did not even know there was an update today. Don't run the automatic updater. Thanks for letting me know, grunf! A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | RTX 4090 | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | Quest 3 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss
grunf Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Uh, I did not even know there was an update today. Don't run the automatic updater. Thanks for letting me know, grunf! I was surprised too. :D
deephack Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 Heatblur for the win! https://www.youtube.com/user/deephack
nesher Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 Too bad that the wing/canard vortexes are still bugged. :cry: A little bit of an immersion breaker, but hoefully they will fix it sooner or later.
Cobra847 Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 Too bad that the wing/canard vortexes are still bugged. :cry: A little bit of an immersion breaker, but hoefully they will fix it sooner or later. Fixed for 2.5 patch since last week Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
QuiGon Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 The cockpit lighting in the current 1.5.8 OB version seems broken too. The light from the radar screen and the altitude warning light illuminate the entire cockpit way too much now. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
nesher Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 Fixed for 2.5 patch since last week Thank you for the update on this Cobra!
Cobra847 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 The cockpit lighting in the current 1.5.8 OB version seems broken too. The light from the radar screen and the altitude warning light illuminate the entire cockpit way too much now. This is because the PBR adjusted lighting got merged into 1.5.8. Not sure how to deal with this yet if there is to be no more 1.5.8 patches. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) This is because the PBR adjusted lighting got merged into 1.5.8. Not sure how to deal with this yet if there is to be no more 1.5.8 patches. Well, I guess I can survive the remaining day without a fix :D Looking forward to enjoy the Viggen and the new PBR lighting in 2.5 (haven't played the OA) :thumbup: Edited January 30, 2018 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
grunf Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 This is because the PBR adjusted lighting got merged into 1.5.8. Not sure how to deal with this yet if there is to be no more 1.5.8 patches. Make a hotfix, if possible. Folks who will stick with 1.5 will be greatful. :D
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 Make a hotfix, if possible. Folks who will stick with 1.5 will be greatful. :D The stable 1.5 is still without these issues. It's just the OB that has it. I wonder if ED will even bother to commit the current OB update to the stable release branch before 2.5 hits. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
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