Timotsuky Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I saw that after the pre-release phase of the Hornet we will be able to use the GEN-X decoy but the problem is that i don't found any informations about it on the web (maybe classified ?) If some of you know how it works, what it is, i'll be thankful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazingTrigger Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I believe it's a towed decoy that mimics the radar signature of a Hornet and creates the illusion for the missile that the jet is further back than it actually is. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracoLlasa Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I believe it's a towed decoy that mimics the radar signature of a Hornet and creates the illusion for the missile that the jet is further back than it actually is. Sent from my Pixel using TapatalkYes thats correct, i dont have the documents either but im pretty sure the F-16 uses the same (similar) decoys. From what i recall they are Expendables, once put out, if not hit, you cut or drop them before RTB. Thats just what i remember.. if the documentation is found i would like to see it as well.. Also i will say the documentation is open source.. ED is VERY strict.. the will NOT model any weapon or strategic system that is not based on open source documentation.. so the worry that its classified should be a concern. The info is out there or ED would not have modeled and used it. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i5 8600K OC @ 5.0GHz w/ Corsair H100i Liquid Cooler| MSI GTX 1080 OC Edition | 32GB DDR4 3600 | EVO 960 NVMe SSD | WD Black NVMe SSD Win10 X64 | TrackIR 5 | HTC Vive | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and Cougar MFDs | Saitek Combat Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazingTrigger Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I believe it's either manually selectable or it's automatically deployed and towed behind the jet if the countermeasures computer deems it needed for the threat. And then can be cut by the pilot or the computer. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) .. RT-1489/ALE Generic Expendable Decoy. The GEN-X Decoy is a small, one shot, expendable terminal, RF threat countermeasure that receives an RF signal from a recognized threat, such as airborne or land-based semi-active radar guided missiles, then transmits RF power to counter that threat. The GEN-X Decoy can be launched from the AN/ALE-39 or AN/ALE-47 Countermeasure Dispensers using a CCU-63/B or CCU-136/A Impulse Cartridge. GEN-X has been designed and cleared for flight on all Navy tactical aircraft. Edited January 29, 2018 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 That doesn't really sound like a towed decoy? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunctator Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 It's not a towed decoy. It's ejected from the same dispensers as chaffs and flares and works independently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracoLlasa Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Oh thanks for clarifying.. i know there are towed decoys and i had also thought that's what the Gen-X was, but reading it now and seeing that it says its launched from the AN/ALE-39 or AN/ALE-47 Countermeasure Dispensers i guess make that more clear as the towed decoys are from pylon stations on the wings i believe. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i5 8600K OC @ 5.0GHz w/ Corsair H100i Liquid Cooler| MSI GTX 1080 OC Edition | 32GB DDR4 3600 | EVO 960 NVMe SSD | WD Black NVMe SSD Win10 X64 | TrackIR 5 | HTC Vive | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and Cougar MFDs | Saitek Combat Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Oh thanks for clarifying.. i know there are towed decoys and i had also thought that's what the Gen-X was, but reading it now and seeing that it says its launched from the AN/ALE-39 or AN/ALE-47 Countermeasure Dispensers i guess make that more clear as the towed decoys are from pylon stations on the wings i believe. Not necessarily from pylons, but generally you're right regarding towed decoys: https://theaviationist.com/2012/04/16/towed-decoy/ Edited January 30, 2018 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegisFX Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Tald launched in front and GenX dropped behind. I look forward to actually hitting the kuznetsov... Owned: Ryzen 3900x, MSI AMD 470x mobo, 32gb 3200MHz ram, Gtx 1660 Ti, 970 Evo Plus 500GB, MsFFB2, TIR5, TMWH+18c Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Buttkicker/SSA, WinWing F-18C . Next is VR for simpit Art Of The Kill: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearbox Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Not necessarily from pylons, but generally you're right: https://theaviationist.com/2012/04/16/towed-decoy/ The ALE-50 dispenser can replace a pylon and then have a weapon rail hung off the bottom of it: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ALE-50_Towed_decoy_system_mounted_on_USAF_F-16C_Block_40H_(90-0710)_at_MCAS_Iwakuni_May_5,_2016_02.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 F/A-18C Doesnt Carry ALE-50 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The ALE-50 dispenser can replace a pylon and then have a weapon rail hung off the bottom of it: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ALE-50_Towed_decoy_system_mounted_on_USAF_F-16C_Block_40H_(90-0710)_at_MCAS_Iwakuni_May_5,_2016_02.jpg Yes, I just said that this isn't always needed as some aircraft have towed decoys internally. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogieman Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Has anyone heard any updates on this? I have been experimenting with high altitude PvP BVR in the Hornet with some success, but I think GEN-X could be particularly handy. Can't wait to see how it is modelled in-game. Edited December 31, 2020 by Boogieman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) No, no updates on this so far. The Hornet's entire ECM suite is still missing (apart from the RWR and chaff and flares). Edited December 31, 2020 by QuiGon 1 1 Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 31, 2020 ED Team Share Posted December 31, 2020 ECM is being worked on by the team, the decoy is still planned. thanks 3 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogieman Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Sweet, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpool Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 1:16 PM, BIGNEWY said: ECM is being worked on by the team, the decoy is still planned. thanks Does the ANL-50 not require the upgrade to ALR-67(V)3 Jammer? Which is budgetwise as OSIP 021-08 planned for sometime through 2023 (with 188 pieces by then) ? So will the Hornet also get the ALR-67(V)3 and the ALQ-214(V)4/5 then which are part of that OSIP? Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 58 minutes ago, deadpool said: Does the ANL-50 not require the upgrade to ALR-67(V)3 Jammer? Which is budgetwise as OSIP 021-08 planned for sometime through 2023 (with 188 pieces by then) ? So will the Hornet also get the ALR-67(V)3 and the ALQ-214(V)4/5 then which are part of that OSIP? ANL-50, you mean ALE-50? In either case, Gen X requires ALE-39 or 47, which we have. So that's fine 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpool Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Swiftwin9s said: ANL-50, you mean ALE-50? In either case, Gen X requires ALE-39 or 47, which we have. So that's fine ALE-50 was referenced here in this thread a lot. Yes, the Gen-X would be dispensed and that's all jolly good. I was talking about the ALE-50. Which is not the Gen-X but a towed decoy system. Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogieman Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 IIRC the ALE-50 was planned for the Viper, not the Hornet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre1-1 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 the GEN-X was recently removed from feature list is this thread and its tag of "later in EA" still valid ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 PLus One please. 2 "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 +1 I just want to know what's going on. 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregfp66 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 +1 also want to know if its still planned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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