Tree on final approach to Batumi

[malibu43]

I would think some chainsaws are in order...

 

[malibu43]

Ya, but IRL they would clear trees if they were that close to being in the glide path. If something goes wrong on final or your nursing a damaged plane in, that tree is in a bad spot.

 

You may be right about it not being in glide path, but it's presence there was enough for me to stop and think "that's odd...". That's not good for immersion.

[Yurgon]

Haven't checked in 2.5, but in 1.5 there was also an antenna right below the glideslope when approaching from that direction.

 

Not 100% sure, but I think Batumi should only be approached from, and taken off towards, the Black Sea, i.e. inbound RWY 08 and outbound RWY 26 or so.

[mvsgas]

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I thought the same thing Yurgon. I think it also applies to Sochi

Edited February 2, 2018 by mvsgas

[mvsgas]

Ya, but IRL they would clear trees if they were that close to being in the glide path....That's not good for immersion.

 

 

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Edited February 2, 2018 by mvsgas

[malibu43]

 

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Yes... smaller airports of course come with all sorts of strange obstacles and things that make for interesting approaches. I don't think a large airport like Batumi would have that.

 

Anyway, not that big of a deal. Looks like no one else minds it. And yes I was landing from an irregular direction.

 

Cheers.

[QuiGon]

I do mind that tree too. It does indeed look pretty unrealistic as OP said.

[Yurgon]

Anyway, not that big of a deal. Looks like no one else minds it.

 

I'd mind it if this was a regular landing direction.

 

Judging from this, it isn't:

 

https://www.google.de/maps/@41.6104354,41.6028119,2648m/data=!3m1!1e3

 

I see no rubber-marks at all on the approach end of RWY 31. If this direction is not cleared for traffic, why would they care about trees?

[QuiGon]

I prefer a highly visible tree much more at this position than e.g. badly visible high tension wires. Experienced both IRL multiple times.

Me too, but no hazard is even better. ;)

[grunf]

A couple of trees is nothing compared to a hill. :D

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

1.5.8 also the Sochi building out to the sea...

[Delareon]

You where way too low for an approach.

But anyways, international standards might differ and the examples from the videos are very extreme and should just stay as an exception, not the standard. For the one with the hill in the approach you need a special training before you are allowed to land there.

 

There are no real world wide rules ragarding Airport standards and many other things in aviation so i can tell only from Germany where i have to maintain a small Airfield for Gliders and small Airplanes.

 

Those Tree may be no problem, even for German standards. Even if i agree that this is better than obstacles you might see very late, like wires or a fence (like i experienced once), the Airpot authority needs to remove it or cut it down.

They may not allowed to do this on their own but i can tell from experience, they are responsible for it and the local politics starts....

 

I would really suggest to try a more or less 3 degrees approach, its also easier than the thing you tried here.

Edited February 2, 2018 by Delareon

[malibu43]

You guys are all missing the point.

 

I was just trying to point out that I thought the tree looked out of place, whether I was on glide slope or not.

 

It's been reported. DCS can decide to do what they want.

[rrohde]

Here's another example (forgot the airport's name) - see attached.

 

It's even worse here, as there's a building in the way, too. :)

[grunf]

Here's another example (forgot the airport's name) - see attached.

 

It's even worse here, as there's a building in the way, too. :)

Nalchik, I think.

[terminator363]

The clutter and trees make landings more fun you guys

[Tj1376]

Good grief, if you want to be upset, be upset that the whole road and town that sits right off the end of Rwy 31 at Batumi is missing. The E70 snakes around to the north there and its all missing in your picture.

 

But, as others have stated, that isnt even remotely unrealistic. We pilots face far worse IRL that that little tree at the end of the runway.

 

TJ

[Balzarog]

Haven't checked in 2.5, but in 1.5 there was also an antenna right below the glideslope when approaching from that direction.

 

Not 100% sure, but I think Batumi should only be approached from, and taken off towards, the Black Sea, i.e. inbound RWY 08 and outbound RWY 26 or so.

 

I might be totally off base here, but has anyone contacted Butami tower to determine the runway for final?

[rrohde]

Sorry to disappoint you, but if you compare Nalchik with google earth you will see that the trees, streets and building are at the same points as IRL.

 

Interesting complaints considering the fact that e.g. at O'Hare highways are even closer to the runway than the tiny street at Nalchik ;)

 

So long as it's realistic I have no complaints. :thumbup: If, however, procedurally generated stuff pops up where in RL there shouldn't be, then that's a different story. My post assumed the latter.

[Turnip]

I got my ticket out of S-44 (Spanaway Airport) It had trees on both ends but the north side was bad. You come in high and pitch for the deck. Taught you to slip the plane it did. LOL

[gospadin]

Here's another example (forgot the airport's name) - see attached.

 

It's even worse here, as there's a building in the way, too. :)

 

you're way way way way way too low on approach, FYI

[Yurgon]

I might be totally off base here, but has anyone contacted Butami tower to determine the runway for final?

 

Still haven't found the time to check this in 2.5, but in earlier versions I believe pilots were always directed to land on 13 regardless of wind.

[grunf]

Still haven't found the time to check this in 2.5, but in earlier versions I believe pilots were always directed to land on 13 regardless of wind.

Yep, it's always 13.

[VZ_342]

Easy fix: modify the airport by adding a hostile Shilka next to the tree...I can almost guarantee the tree won’t be seen at all!

 

:pilotfly:

[doright]

How about trees only at the ends of the runway.

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