Burning Bridges Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) NVidia GTX 1070 390.77 Win7 64 Deferred Shading and 8 AA / 16 AF enabled in game Is is just me and my computer/drivers? After the update to 2.5 I get horribly blurry graphics, terrain textures look like low res, trees look bad. This is especially bad in cockpit view. DCS 2.5: Below is a comparison of one of my last shots with 2.1, which I unfortunately selected DCS to automatically uninstalled. DCS 2.1: When you look at the cockpit instruments, everything is crisp as we were used to from DCS. I tried deleting the shaders but that didn't help. Should I reinstall from scratch or try downgrading? Edited February 16, 2018 by Burning Bridges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Turn off DoF. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 DoF is always off. This is something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) DoF works only in external views anyway... I don't want to nitpick, but whatever it is on the second screenshot, it sure as hell ain't AFx16 :D, or should I say, game's "16" was clearly overridden by something - driver setting maybe? Looks equally bad, more like AF x2. Everything is blurred more than it should. I know that, for example, NV cpl "texture filtering" option set towards performance can do this. Which brings the question, does the same "something" overrides your 2.5 now as well? Screen below shows how the Nellis runway @ AA8, AF16 looks like in my 2.5 (388.71 drivers, filtering on "quality"). Edit: just to make sure, you did remove options.lua after uprgading to 2.5, did you? Edited February 15, 2018 by Art-J i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 The second screenshot was a comparison shot from my previous installation where everything was perfect. It was with AA x2 AF x8 becuase that is usually enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag80 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I cant see anything blurry. Pictures are sharp and normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Textures set to "High?" Cockpit textures are not segregated from the outside world. I inadvertently set mine to medium a few days ago while tweaking and suddenly half the A-10C pit was illegible. Putting it back to "High" gave me readable placards, etc. again. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShoes Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 post your graphics settings how come is your resolution 1680 x 1050? ...and as said above, check your texture is at "high" Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7 | i7-8700K | 32GB DDR4 3600 | GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE | EKWB custom loop water cooling | Samsung M.2 EVO 960 500GB SSD + 2 x Crucial 250MX SSD + 4TB HD | Asus PG348Q 3440x1440 | TrackIR5 | Oculus Rift CV1 | MSFFB2 w extension + Saitek X52 Throttle + MFG Crosswind | Windows 10-64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 I took another screenshot. Just look at the cockpit surface that appear blurry and without detail Below is a side by side comparison. Especially the switches on the left look grotesquely overfiltered like in a 2000s game. Looks like I need to downgrade to 2.1 again because no one else has this problem but me, or people just don't see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 I have done all the things and the usual tips. deleted options.lua (does nothing but delete your graphics settings LOL) Deleted the the two shader folders /metashaders and /fxo several times This must be something about the (correct) shaders and I just pray this is not how it is supposed to look like from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 I have of course tried Full Screen on/off, and all possible settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 deleted options.lua (does nothing but delete your graphics settings LOL) That's the point, resetting all the options, so that old parameters do not interfere with new game version settings hidden in Config\Terrain\ .lua files. Anyway, I see what you mean, the last screen shows it clearly. The good thing is - no, that's not how 2.5 is supposed to look, I've just checked with in-game textures on "low" and "high", plus NV cpl texture filtering on "performance" and "quality". None of the above makes the textures THAT blurry. The bad thing is, I don't know what does on your machine :D. GFX driver is the main suspect then. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 When I had seen 2.5 and the problem came up I installed the latest driver from Nvidia (390.77) and it was still the same. So I don't think I can try willy nilly every possible driver version and the problem just goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I can only say it doesn't look like that with 388.71. Well, if the usual 3-steps DCS troubleshooting routine (cleanup, repair, renaming of Saved Games\DCS) doesn't help, and if clean install of some other drivers doesn't help, then I don't know what to suggest next. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 LOL. I believe that was the driver I uninstalled to fix the problem. But I can try again. And may back again. And then back to yet another driver. It looks like I have to downgrade DCS again and run 2 version concurrently. Like always :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yeah. To have a laugh I installed 388.71 driver. Then deleted the shader cache and so on. it didn't change a thing :lol: I will now go and redownload the 90 Gigabyte installation as often as it needs until the problem dissapears, and if this does not help, reinstall Windows and all my software. Am I doing right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 A bit desperate/extreme method (in my 4 years of DCS I never reinstalled anything, because all my problems were always solved with 3 steps above) but If nothing else works, go for it. That being said, your 2.1 screen doesn't look as it should at these settings either :D. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) What you mean, "at those settings". I believe the 2.1 was taken with 2xAA 8xAF. I have of course not stored metadata with every screenshot I took so the exact AA/AF settings are forgotten. Point being that up to the last version everything was crisp and now .. well you see yourself. I also never understand why everyone assumes that it's the fault of the user if things get worse after an update. It's ED who wrote the shaders not me. Edited February 16, 2018 by Burning Bridges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShoes Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Your resolution is 1680 x 1050. Is that really your native screen resolution? (just wondering if DCS 2.5 for some odd reason would give you lower quality textures if your screen resolution is below 1920x1080???) Please give a try at the native screen resolution if that is not already the case. Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7 | i7-8700K | 32GB DDR4 3600 | GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE | EKWB custom loop water cooling | Samsung M.2 EVO 960 500GB SSD + 2 x Crucial 250MX SSD + 4TB HD | Asus PG348Q 3440x1440 | TrackIR5 | Oculus Rift CV1 | MSFFB2 w extension + Saitek X52 Throttle + MFG Crosswind | Windows 10-64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes, it is my native resolution, of course. Also, even it wasn't and the image appeared scaled then the distortion would only show in photos of my screen, not in screenshots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 I also tried higher DSR resolutions and it did not change a thing. ie where previously a slightly shaded, textured objects appear, there is now only white glare. And if someone now asks if I installed sweetfx or any bs like that, of course not. This is a fresh installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gliptal Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Is that plane the Hawk? Have you tried another plane? 2.5 introduced even newer lighting effects, the problem may be the cockpit art itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 It's the L-39 and yes I have tried another plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docWilly Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The second screenshot was a comparison shot from my previous installation where everything was perfect. It was with AA x2 AF x8 becuase that is usually enough. Did you try MSAA x8 and AF x16? Is your system capable of running this setting? Better results then? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]my rig specs: i7-4790K CPU 4.50GHz, 32GB RAM, 64bit WIN10, NVidia GeForce GTX 980 Ti, SSD+ A10C, UH-1H, M2C, F5E, Gazelle, KA 50, F18C, DCS 2.5x OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Bridges Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes. Yes. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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