Sham03 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Hey guys, I wrote a short PDF with some steps I did on my DCS to stop stuttering and MP crashes. Give it a try :thumbup: Btw, I'm french so I did my best to translate it, tell me if you don't understand something. EDIT : Another test, If I move the pagefile.sys on the disk where my DCS is, it keeps crashing with an error window (virtual memory). I moved this file to another disk and it works now.Improve performances DCS 2.5_english.pdf Edited March 2, 2018 by Sham03 1
ivo Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 Thank a lot cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
droopy114 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 Thank's, I will give Process Lasso a try. Funny thing is about your preload radius setting, for me it's the exact opposite: set at 150000: can't join server, even if there are only a few people, decrease at the lowest value, so 100, I can join ALL server I want, BlueFlag, Cold War, with between 30/50 pilots without any problem...and I don't notice more stutter or loading time if this value is set at 100.
Sham03 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Posted February 28, 2018 Okay nice to see some feedback. Droopy don't know what's going on with this preload radius, it's more a ON/OFF (0 or 150 000) option at the moment..
Scratchy Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 Thanks very much Sham03. This has helped my single-player problems quite a bit. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Intel i7-8700K @4.9Ghz | 32Gb memory DDR4 | Evga GTX 1080ti | Saitek Eclipse keyboard | Logitech Mx518 | CH Fighterstick, Pro Throttle/Pedales | TIr5 | Win10 x64 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
ECV56_FOXONE Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 Thx alot Sham03 improve my MP experience 100% super man
Sniper175 Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 Great guide, for vram and standard ram I use Razer Cortex it frees up quite about of ram before you boot up dcs. I fly in VR so it's a big help Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk I7-8700 @5GHZ, 32GB 3000MHZ RAM, 1080TI, Rift S, ODYSSEY +. SSD DRIVES, WIN10
JABO2009 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Nice guide , thx for posting, will try this out of curiosity. question: Do I strictly Need this "Process Lasso " software to optimise process issues, or can Processor Affinity / Priority Class etc also be trimmed / optimized directly via Windows 7 Task Manager -> Perfomance Tab ? .. Never tweaked / experimented anything - processor wise- in Windows user interface EDIT: I tried Process Lasso with the recommended settings and my performance seems to have slightly improved.. will further test to be 100% sure though . Edited March 6, 2018 by JABO2009 Intel I7 - 10700 K @ 3,80GHz / 64 GB DDR3 / RTX 3090 / Win 10 Home 64 bit / Logitech X56 HOTAS / HP Reverb G2 Running DCS on latest OB version
JetBLASTER Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 Hey guys, I wrote a short PDF with some steps I did on my DCS to stop stuttering and MP crashes. Give it a try :thumbup: Btw, I'm french so I did my best to translate it, tell me if you don't understand something. EDIT : Another test, If I move the pagefile.sys on the disk where my DCS is, it keeps crashing with an error window (virtual memory). I moved this file to another disk and it works now. Hi SHAM03 :thumbup:You made my day. For several months I've been trying to finish with the stutters and crash, I've read almost every post in this forum with no success. I followed your instructions and everything works perfect. Many thanks and all the best to you, brother. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel® Core™ i7-6850 CPU@3.60GHz @4.068 Asus ROG STRIX X99 GAMING ATX Motherboard 64 bit operation System- RAM 32.0 GB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 WindForce OC 8GB - Disk Drives KINGSTON SVP200S37A 1tb/WDC WD 10EZEX-00ZF5A0 - Samsung ssd 1tb 840 series. - 3 Samsung 27"SyncMaster 3D Game monitors - Windows 8.1 Pro - TM Hotas Warthog-Trackir5 pro-Saitek Rudder Pedals-Cougar MFD.
BitMaster Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 There seem to be a few critical points that all should be aware of with the Beta and it's bugs: #1: Delete/rename your ".../SavedGames/DCS.." folder after each DCS update and GPU driver update. Less grey hair ! #2 DELETE/DEINSTALL all your 3rd party add-ons, fly Vanilla in Beta. #3 Have a proper PageFile setting, recommended is at least the size of your RAM, 16/16 or 32/32. I would not take less than 32GB imho and I would allow PageFiles on ALL drives but the DCS drive if you have more drives to choose from. Splitt I/O as much as you can, DCS is a beast. general tips: #4 Use a SSD(s), this should be very clear by now. Use 1 for OS and 1 for DCS is even better. #5 ProcessLasso is a nice helper, employ it with DCS set to SingleThreadedPerformanceMode #5 engage HighPerformance PowerSettings for your PC ( Cpanel ) and GPU ( GPU Cpanel ). Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
JetBLASTER Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 There seem to be a few critical points that all should be aware of with the Beta and it's bugs: #1: Delete/rename your ".../SavedGames/DCS.." folder after each DCS update and GPU driver update. Less grey hair ! #2 DELETE/DEINSTALL all your 3rd party add-ons, fly Vanilla in Beta. #3 Have a proper PageFile setting, recommended is at least the size of your RAM, 16/16 or 32/32. I would not take less than 32GB imho and I would allow PageFiles on ALL drives but the DCS drive if you have more drives to choose from. Splitt I/O as much as you can, DCS is a beast. general tips: #4 Use a SSD(s), this should be very clear by now. Use 1 for OS and 1 for DCS is even better. #5 ProcessLasso is a nice helper, employ it with DCS set to SingleThreadedPerformanceMode #5 engage HighPerformance PowerSettings for your PC ( Cpanel ) and GPU ( GPU Cpanel ). Thanks a lot BitMaster for the imformation. To be honest I've never had Dcs running correctly. I've always had a lot of stutter and crash even before the DCS 2.5 OpenBeta. I followed a lot of advice in this forum which I really appreciate. So today when I tried Shum03's advice and dcs started working fine I was very surprised. I'm going to follow your advice, too. Many thanks once again [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel® Core™ i7-6850 CPU@3.60GHz @4.068 Asus ROG STRIX X99 GAMING ATX Motherboard 64 bit operation System- RAM 32.0 GB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 WindForce OC 8GB - Disk Drives KINGSTON SVP200S37A 1tb/WDC WD 10EZEX-00ZF5A0 - Samsung ssd 1tb 840 series. - 3 Samsung 27"SyncMaster 3D Game monitors - Windows 8.1 Pro - TM Hotas Warthog-Trackir5 pro-Saitek Rudder Pedals-Cougar MFD.
JetBLASTER Posted April 3, 2018 Posted April 3, 2018 Hi BitMaster I followed your advice and the game is running even better. I have 3 ssd drivers, Operation system run alone on a ssd 500GB. DCS runs alone on another ssd 1tb and Pagefile on ssd 120GB.Huge difference was made.My settings are all maxed out. And I'm very happy. Thank you very much and all the best to you JB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel® Core™ i7-6850 CPU@3.60GHz @4.068 Asus ROG STRIX X99 GAMING ATX Motherboard 64 bit operation System- RAM 32.0 GB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 WindForce OC 8GB - Disk Drives KINGSTON SVP200S37A 1tb/WDC WD 10EZEX-00ZF5A0 - Samsung ssd 1tb 840 series. - 3 Samsung 27"SyncMaster 3D Game monitors - Windows 8.1 Pro - TM Hotas Warthog-Trackir5 pro-Saitek Rudder Pedals-Cougar MFD.
Arink429 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Thanks Sham03. My computer works perfectly now. No crashes, no stuttering. Thanks a lot. Antonio. ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO WiFi AC / i7-8700K@5.0 GHz / 2xM.2 Toshiba OCZ RD400 1Tb / 4xCorsair 8Gb (32Gb) DDR4@3000 MHz / 2xGeforce GTX 1080 Ti + 1Geforce GTX 680 / SoundBlaster Fatal1ty / Windows 10 Home x64 / TM Warthog / TM TPR Pedals / Oculus Rift / Samsung UE32EH5000W
Highwayman-Ed Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Nice guide, it certainly gave me a little bump in performance Intel i9-9900KF @5.2GHz MSI Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon 32GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR3200 RAM MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio 40" Panasonic TH-40DX600U @ 4K Pimax Vision 8K Plus / Oculus Rift CV1 / HTC Vive Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker Windows 10 64 Bit Home Edition [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
meloco Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 thanks for sharing, hopefully this is a good temporary fix whilst the devs fix the game :). [sIGPIC]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/Meloco/f18indgMeloco-sig-1.jpg[/sIGPIC]
RealDCSpilot Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 @Sham03 This info is pure gold! Before using Process Lasso the game was unplayable on my system (Win10pro, i9 7980XE, 32 GB RAM, 1080ti ...). It was constantly crashing, loading took ages and when i was lucky to get flying for a couple of minutes before freezing and crashing, graphics were extremely stuttering and overall awful performance (low or high settings, didn't matter). This thread should be a sticky! Now everything runs fine at very high settings! i9 13900K @5.5GHz, Z790 Gigabyte Aorus Master, RTX4090 Waterforce, 64 GB DDR5 @5600, PSVR2, Pico 4 Ultra, HOTAS & Rudder: all Virpil with Rhino FFB base made by VPforce, DCS: all modules
BitMaster Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Hi BitMaster I followed your advice and the game is running even better. I have 3 ssd drivers, Operation system run alone on a ssd 500GB. DCS runs alone on another ssd 1tb and Pagefile on ssd 120GB.Huge difference was made.My settings are all maxed out. And I'm very happy. Thank you very much and all the best to you JB :thumbup: glad it boosted your performance even more I myself just put in another 250GB SSD....just for PageFile. Better than collecting dust on the shelf. I now run the PF solely off that SSD, no other drive(s) NVME - OS 2 x SSD_Raid_0 - DCS 1 x SSD -Pagefile Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Azazel Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Just wanted to report that after following the two posts below my performance has much improved. First, I found out what was causing my crashes. The patch before the latest apparently did not like the amount I was overclocking my video card which was causing my CTD headaches. The sim would crash every-time after the first time I would power up my system. After pulling back my MSI overclocking settings a little it no longer crashes. My appologies to ED's bug reporting system monitors. You probably have about 100 automatic crash logs from me. Next, I wanted to see if the two posts below would help my system at all with FPS and latency. I installed Process Lasso (never heard of it until now), followed the PDF, and cleaned out my saved games folder. Mind you, I did all this one at a time between testing the sim for gains to see what worked best. Before, while over cities and forests etc, the sim would drop down to 20-30 fps and stuttering would increase a bit. Changes combined, the sim is running stable for me now between 40-60 fps. V-sync is OFF, because it causes stuttering for me: the GPU spikes (the graph looks like a heart attack in progress) and V-sync off the sim runs much smoother with GPU usage max and level at 99%. Latency has been reduced. Almost all my settings are on high, see below for my ingame and Nvidia settings. If you have a older rig (my processor and mobo are 8 years old now), I highly recommend the posts below. Many thanks to Sham and Bitmaster! :thumbup: Hey guys, I wrote a short PDF with some steps I did on my DCS to stop stuttering and MP crashes. Give it a try :thumbup: Btw, I'm french so I did my best to translate it, tell me if you don't understand something. EDIT : Another test, If I move the pagefile.sys on the disk where my DCS is, it keeps crashing with an error window (virtual memory). I moved this file to another disk and it works now. There seem to be a few critical points that all should be aware of with the Beta and it's bugs: #1: Delete/rename your ".../SavedGames/DCS.." folder after each DCS update and GPU driver update. Less grey hair ! #2 DELETE/DEINSTALL all your 3rd party add-ons, fly Vanilla in Beta. #3 Have a proper PageFile setting, recommended is at least the size of your RAM, 16/16 or 32/32. I would not take less than 32GB imho and I would allow PageFiles on ALL drives but the DCS drive if you have more drives to choose from. Splitt I/O as much as you can, DCS is a beast. general tips: #4 Use a SSD(s), this should be very clear by now. Use 1 for OS and 1 for DCS is even better. #5 ProcessLasso is a nice helper, employ it with DCS set to SingleThreadedPerformanceMode #5 engage HighPerformance PowerSettings for your PC ( Cpanel ) and GPU ( GPU Cpanel ). Edited June 21, 2018 by Azazel My Rig: EVGA GTX 1070 x 2 | EVGA x58 SLI classified | i7 X 990 CPU | 24 GB RAM | Windows 10 Home 64 bit| Track IR Pro | CH Fighter Stick | CH Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BitMaster Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 Yeah, having the swapfile and DCS on one and the same drive might be a hurdle, if that is even the OS drive you are bound to run into issues. 1 slave can hardly serve 3 Masters ! Splitt your I/O...this is a very old and still valid truth, despite NVMe and SSD and PCIexpress ..it is still a vaild tip. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Sham03 Posted August 7, 2018 Author Posted August 7, 2018 Glad to see it has helped many of you guys :)
ac5 Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Thank you very much for your suggestions, but what do you think about this?: I am pretty sure after days of testing, that the main reason for stutters is that some situations / terrains jump from 20 to 50 FPS or more all the time. Either 30 or if possible 60 stable and constant, only this guarantees fluidity. (for a 60 Hertz monitor). Anything else than 30 or 60 stutters like crazy with my setup. 120 is not reachable. No way to fly in Nevada or Normandy, Caucasus and PG are most of the time OK, with eitner 30 or 60 FPS. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=216729 Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals
0414 Wee Neal Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 Hi I tried this and my system did not like it at all I got very bad micro stutters. I reverted pagefile back, which made no difference, I stopped Lasso and instability dissappeared; this was clearly the issue. The only thing that I was unable to set from the .pdf was the 'single threaded performance mode' which I could not find- whether this setting or lack of was the issue? Any advice welcome. Neal Desktop PC: Intel i7 14700K, MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk MOBO, 64Gb RAM , GPU Nvidia RTX 3080ti Windows 11, VPC joystick, Crosswind rudder peddles, HP Reverb G2, VPC Collective, DOF Reality H2, Gametrix seat, WinWing panels.
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