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Как на J-11 и нашем МиГ-29С с Р-77 понять, когда Р-77 перешла в активный режим?

 

 

Для меня это всегда загадкой было.

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Задам вопрос.

Как на J-11 и нашем МиГ-29С с Р-77 понять, когда Р-77 перешла в активный режим?

 

 

Для меня это всегда загадкой было.

 

В DCS - шоу интуиция. В реале - а хрен его знает.

 

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В DCS - шоу интуиция. В реале - а хрен его знает.

 

На Р-ках обратный отсчет идет, до попадания.

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На Р-ках обратный отсчет идет, до попадания.

 

У Р-77 или только старой доброй Р-27? Я не помню уже xD

 

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У Р-77 или только старой доброй Р-27? Я не помню уже xD

 

У 77-й не знаю.

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Понял, спасибо. А то думаю то ли я глупенький, то ли рили индикации не на миге, не на 11ом нет.

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А как сейчас распространяется J-11A? Мне почему то казалось, что он идет в пакете FC3. Но сейчас проверил описание FC3 на сайте и там никаких упоминаний о китайце не нашел. При создании миссии его и вовсе нет в перечне ЛА. В подфоруме Деки пишут, что теперь он доступен только для тех, у кого отдельно приобретен модуль Су-27, это так?

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J-11 идет в комплекте с модулем Су-27.

Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу

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Задам вопрос.

Как на J-11 и нашем МиГ-29С с Р-77 понять, когда Р-77 перешла в активный режим?

 

 

Для меня это всегда загадкой было.

 

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In real life this bar will flash if missile go active.

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[ATTACH]240765[/ATTACH]

 

In real life this bar will flash if missile go active.

 

Interesting, from which aircraft (and modification) this photo is?

 

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Interesting, from which aircraft (and modification) this photo is?

 

Taken from an Youtube video just for illustration:

 

The description of this bar can be seen in Su-27SK manual, and also J-11A & Su-30Mkk Chinese manual in real life.

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Taken from an Youtube video just for illustration:

 

The description of this bar can be seen in Su-27SK manual, and also J-11A & Su-30Mkk Chinese manual in real life.

 

It's indicator for Time on Impact, it has nothing to do with active seeker of any missile (R-77). Su-27SK Manual page 193. + it's wrote on your picture lol

 

And yea, it's missed in some reason.

 

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The flashing part is not in 27SK manual. It's in the Chinese J-11A & SU-30Mkk manual.

 

I don't have access to both ones so, everything is possible. :) But in 27SK it's just TOI

 

+ I wrote this on the picture.

 

Where? Yellow circle with comments in Russian?

 

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I don't have access to both ones so, everything is possible. :) But in 27SK it's just TOI

 

Well, you may see one if a full-fidelity SU-30 or something actually got released (one day hopefully).

 

Yes in 27SK it's just TOI.

 

Where? Yellow circle with comments in Russian?

Yes.

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Yes.

No matter I think just I didn't get your message fully at start :D

 

Well, you may see one if a full-fidelity SU-30 or something actually got released (one day hopefully).

I hope too, will be happy to see even Su-30 from KNAAZ thread with weak avionic (Su-30MKK). :( But it's mostly not Russian one, export (except couple decades of Su-30M2). Su-30SM - best Su-30 8) (except TPOD ofc :D )

 

Anyway, LJQCN101, your company still plans to update J-11A avionic with MFD-55 and another stuff? What's about datalink final status?

 

UPD: and as I understand you didn't plan to make full clickable version. Here in Russia we have a problems with classified information, so don't think so we will get any Russian version of any Russian modern aircraft so you have a chance to make first clickable Flanker ever I think... (sadly for me a bit ofc, but if we don't have another way, why not :D )


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Anyway, LJQCN101, your company still plans to update J-11A avionic with MFD-55 and another stuff? What's about datalink final status?

 

UPD: and as I understand you didn't plan to make full clickable version. Here in Russia we have a problems with classified information, so don't think so we will get any Russian version of any Russian modern aircraft so you have a chance to make first clickable Flanker ever I think... (sadly for me a bit ofc, but if we don't have another way, why not :D )

 

I think we're about to discuss the next step. I can check back to you in the near future.

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I think we're about to discuss the next step. I can check back to you in the near future.

 

Would be interesting ^-^

 

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In real life this bar will flash if missile go active.

 

No. It is just progress bar from 1 to 60 seconds, the time limit of electric power supply device of R-27 missile.

That is just lifetime of the missile. If after this time the target is still alive, then the missile missed.


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No. It is just progress bar from 1 to 60 seconds, the time limit of electric power supply device of R-27 missile.

That is just lifetime of the missile. If after this time the target is still alive, then the missile missed.

 

I know, it appears after a Ат_t_10 command is generated, and has a maximum length of 4 cm (60 sec). Besides, if you’re firing an R-77, it will flash when the missile go active, at least in J-11A and Su-30MKK.


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