clanitho Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 Hello, is it important to enter the laser code after selecting the gbu-12? I ask this question because since 2.51 my gbu-12 systematically miss their targets of a few meters. Everything is ok on the 2.5. MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - Intel I7 4790K - Artic cooling freezer 7 pro rev 2 - GSKILL 32 Go - SSD Crucial M5 120 go - SSD Crucial 2To - HDD western digital caviar blue 1 TO - Gigabyte GTX 1070 Gaming G1 - Windows 10 home 64 bits
Repth Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 Yes, you will need to manually change the laser code once airborne. The Harrier's laser code is automatically reset to 1111 when ever the wheels are on the ground, so even if you set it and then land, you will need to reset it to use whatever laser code the bomb is using once you are in the air again.
Smokin Hole Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 Why does it matter if it is the tpod that is doing the lasing? I mean, if the tpod resets to 1111 then won't the bombs reset as well. So long as they speak the same language and not dealing with jtacs, all should be good, right?
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 Why does it matter if it is the tpod that is doing the lasing? I mean, if the tpod resets to 1111 then won't the bombs reset as well. So long as they speak the same language and not dealing with jtacs, all should be good, right? That would depend on how well the targetting computers communicate with the bombs that are loaded. Common sense would dictate that indeed, laser codes used by the TPOD are transferred to the bombs so that their seeker heads know which laser frequency to look for. In other aircraft that do not have a TPOD, the laser code has to be specified in the mission editor (in this example, the M-2000C): But for the AV-8B N/A, there is no such option. Also, Clanitho didn't specify under which conditions the GBU12s were dropped. Was a different mission used for 2.5 and 2.5.1? JTAC unit on the ground, a Predator drone doing auto-lasing, TPOD? For me, dropping GBU12s works just fine in 2.5.1 but I tend to use Predator drones for lasing. Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
mvsgas Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) There is no communication between the aircraft and the gbu-12. The laser code is set on the ground on the seeker itself. The game allowed us to change it it the cockpit to be convenient. Edited May 8, 2018 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 There is no communication between the aircraft and the gbu-12. The laser code is set on the ground on the seeker itself. The game allowed us to change it it the cockpit to be convenient. Ok, thanks for the info ! :thumbup: Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
clanitho Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 Also, Clanitho didn't specify under which conditions the GBU12s were dropped. Was a different mission used for 2.5 and 2.5.1? JTAC unit on the ground, a Predator drone doing auto-lasing, TPOD? For me, dropping GBU12s works just fine in 2.5.1 but I tend to use Predator drones for lasing. Thanks for your response, the problem was my aircraft speed , too fast. MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - Intel I7 4790K - Artic cooling freezer 7 pro rev 2 - GSKILL 32 Go - SSD Crucial M5 120 go - SSD Crucial 2To - HDD western digital caviar blue 1 TO - Gigabyte GTX 1070 Gaming G1 - Windows 10 home 64 bits
davidp57 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 What's the max speed for dropping a GBU12 ? Zip - VEAF :pilotfly: If you want to learn, talk and fly with french-speaking friends, the Virtual European Air Force is here for you ! Meet us on our Discord and our forum If you're a mission creator, you may want to check the VEAF Mission Creation Tools (and its GitHub repository) a set of open-source scripts and tools that make creating a dynamic mission a breeze !
clanitho Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 What's the max speed for dropping a GBU12 ? I stay below 350 knots. MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - Intel I7 4790K - Artic cooling freezer 7 pro rev 2 - GSKILL 32 Go - SSD Crucial M5 120 go - SSD Crucial 2To - HDD western digital caviar blue 1 TO - Gigabyte GTX 1070 Gaming G1 - Windows 10 home 64 bits
olivier-gaming Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 and at what altitude? if you are too low and too fast your laser no longer marks the target
olivier-gaming Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 I tested GBU12 at 17000,20000,25000 and 30000 fts and a speed 519 no problem the target was destroy
clanitho Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 and at what altitude? if you are too low and too fast your laser no longer marks the target Above 9000 ft. MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - Intel I7 4790K - Artic cooling freezer 7 pro rev 2 - GSKILL 32 Go - SSD Crucial M5 120 go - SSD Crucial 2To - HDD western digital caviar blue 1 TO - Gigabyte GTX 1070 Gaming G1 - Windows 10 home 64 bits
olivier-gaming Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Above 9000 ft. Do you start plane in the air or on the ground? because if it is plane in the air the laser code does not take on tpod
sunski34 Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 I had a problem when lasing EWR 55G6 (spot on the vehicle) with TPOD, GBU doesn't hit it. Seems to lase head of antenna !!! It's ok with shilka, so it depends of the target I think.
clanitho Posted May 10, 2018 Author Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) Do you start plane in the air or on the ground? because if it is plane in the air the laser code does not take on tpod I start from ground and my target is a EWR 55G6. As suggest sunski34 i will try with another target. Edited May 10, 2018 by clanitho MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - Intel I7 4790K - Artic cooling freezer 7 pro rev 2 - GSKILL 32 Go - SSD Crucial M5 120 go - SSD Crucial 2To - HDD western digital caviar blue 1 TO - Gigabyte GTX 1070 Gaming G1 - Windows 10 home 64 bits
mvsgas Posted May 10, 2018 Posted May 10, 2018 You mention the bomb is missing by a few meters, how much is it missing by? If it is within 5 meters, it should be normal. Is it suppose to be like that in DCS? Not sure, but sounds within limits of RL. Also, are you turning after bomb drop? Why does that matter? In DCS, I don't know but in real life you want to lase the same side of the target that the bomb is coming from so it can see the laser illumination, so you want to drop the bomb and turn the aircraft so you can maintain the laser on the side of the target that the bomb can see. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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