Windows Mixed Reality Discussion

[imacken]

Yes, it's in Cliff House, the WMR 'home'.

[Miles Vorkosigan]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before:

 

 

 

To remove the three virtual monitors created when WMR starts:

 

You can disable the "Virtual Display Adapter" in Device Manager. The three virtual displays will not reappear. You may have to turn on "Show Hidden Devices" under View menu at the top to see it.

 

A dozen reboots and one minor windows update and the fix is still working.

 

That takes care of that annoyance...

[speed-of-heat]

what is the benefit of disabling, what if any problems does it introduce?

[Miles Vorkosigan]

If you have not had any issues with the virtual monitors then this fix is not needed for you ;)

 

Edit, that sounded snide, was not meant that way.

 

Issues: Sometimes icons/windows etc will be moved to one of those monitors and are not accessible on the real monitors. If you are using Point CNT FCUs then it messes up your attempts to calibrate and you have to manually get rid of each virtual monitor one at a time. This way you do not have to do that. So far as I know there is no downside to removing the virtual monitor driver unless you use WMR in an Enterprise Environment (no, not the game Bridge Crew, lol).

Edited August 8, 2020 by Miles Vorkosigan

[speed-of-heat]

If you have not had any issues with the virtual monitors then this fix is not needed for you ;)

 

Edit, that sounded snide, was not meant that way.

 

Issues: Sometimes icons/windows etc will be moved to one of those monitors and are not accessible on the real monitors. If you are using Point CNT FCUs then it messes up your attempts to calibrate and you have to manually get rid of each virtual monitor one at a time. This way you do not have to do that. So far as I know there is no downside to removing the virtual monitor driver unless you use WMR in an Enterprise Environment (no, not the game Bridge Crew, lol).

 

Interesting, and thanks for the explanation! Also cool handle (i love the books)

 

2nd question wheer do you find it, i dont find it listed under display adapters, mixed reality devices, i do have 3 generic pnp monitors and my HMD under Monitors

 

edit ahh you have to show hidden devices

Edited August 8, 2020 by speed-of-heat

[speed-of-heat]

ok so there is a disadvantage, its a minor one , if you disable the virtual monitors your cannot bring up a "windows 2d" app as a separate window in VR, you can still get at it in the desktop

[imacken]

The 'fix' didn't work for me anyway, as the devices still appeared in DM. Never had an issue though, so no big deal.

[onslope]

Motion Compensation solved for WMR

 

There is a new Motion Compensator for Steam.

 

Confirmed working on Reverb with it's own included WMR controller mounted in front of you.

Motion Compensation: https://tinyurl.com/motion-compensation

 

 

Good luck and enjoy!:thumbup:

[Baldrick33]

There was a WMR for SteamVR beta update today

 

Not sure if this is a new change but in the default.vrsettings file the default is now for motion reprojection to be off ("none") and the only exception for SteamVr settings to overrider appears to be half life alyx.

 

So you may need to edit this file to enable reprojection in other apps. I simply changed it to default to auto.

[imacken]

Been that way for months now. It should be kept at none and all settings are now in a WMR tab on SteamVR.

[Baldrick33]

Been that way for months now. It should be kept at none and all settings are now in a WMR tab on SteamVR.

I guess I remembered wrong but I thought it had to be commented out to work with SteamVR settings

[imacken]

No, just leave it at default. We shouldn’t have to go near that file any more.

[Baldrick33]

No, just leave it at default. We shouldn’t have to go near that file any more.

Unfortunately I think we still do. Each update overwrites the file and disables motion reprojection. We either have to turn it on the default.vrsettings file or comment it out (or remove it). I just tested it and this is the case.

 

You are right in that it was changed a few months ago when the steamVR per application settings were enabled. This is from the release notes:

 

 

Alternatively, if you're using Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR in conjunction with the latest SteamVR release, you can now use SteamVR to manage motion reprojection settings on a per-application basis. To enable this functionality:

 

1. Ensure you're running a supported version of SteamVR (1.10.28 or greater).
   
2. Remove the "motionReprojectionMode" line from default.vrsettings.
   
3. In the SteamVR settings, select Video > Per Application Video Settings.
   
4. Select the title you're interested in, and change the motion smoothing option.
   

[imacken]

Unfortunately I think we still do. Each update overwrites the file and disables motion reprojection. We either have to turn it on the default.vrsettings file or comment it out (or remove it). I just tested it and this is the case.

 

You are right in that it was changed a few months ago when the steamVR per application settings were enabled. This is from the release notes:

 

 

Alternatively, if you're using Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR in conjunction with the latest SteamVR release, you can now use SteamVR to manage motion reprojection settings on a per-application basis. To enable this functionality:

 

1. Ensure you're running a supported version of SteamVR (1.10.28 or greater).
   
2. Remove the "motionReprojectionMode" line from default.vrsettings.
   
3. In the SteamVR settings, select Video > Per Application Video Settings.
   
4. Select the title you're interested in, and change the motion smoothing option.
   

 

Sorry, but that is incorrect.

It is supposed to be disabled. Yes, what you say will work, but it's unnecessary. No need to touch that file any more. All done from the SteamVR tab.

In addition, it doesn't have to be on the Per Application Settings, the global setting works in DCS as well.

Edited September 2, 2020 by imacken

[Baldrick33]

Sorry, but that is incorrect.

It is supposed to be disabled. Yes, what you say will work, but it's unnecessary. No need to touch that file any more. All done from the SteamVR tab.

In addition, it doesn't have to be on the Per Application Settings, the global setting works in DCS as well.

Intriguing as I can only see motion smoothing in the per application settings.

 

If my default.vrsettings disables re-projection then no matter what I set per application settings for DCS in SteamVR settings there is no re-projection.

 

If I comment out the line I can set in SteamVR settings. Or I can set it to Auto in default.vrsettings.

 

Either way I have to edit the file to enable it. Unless of course I am missing something which is more than possible :)

[imacken]

I think you are missing the WMR tab in the bottom of the SteamVR dashboard when in game. Press down on the controller stick to bring it up. Then you will see a WMR settings tab along the bottom.

I think you may be just looking at the desktop SteamVR settings.

[Baldrick33]

I think you are missing the WMR tab in the bottom of the SteamVR dashboard when in game. Press down on the controller stick to bring it up. Then you will see a WMR settings tab along the bottom.

I think you may be just looking at the desktop SteamVR settings.

You are right, I never use the SteamVR dashboard and have no controllers connected most of the time!

 

Just to add if I have it disabled in default.vrsetting and add dcs.exe to the exceptions in it then I can set it in SteamVR desktop settings under per application. I think this is new, I certainly don't recall seeing this.

 

// If motionReprojectionMode is disabled, these applications will still respect SteamVR settings

"MotionReprojectionDisabledExceptions" : {

"hlvr.exe" : true

"dcs.exe" : true

},

[imacken]

You only have to connect the controllers once, and choose your settings.

The reason for having the WMR tab is so that people don't have to mess with that settings file which isn't exactly user friendly with it's location etc.

The new tab in SteamVR dashboard has lots of useful aspects.

[Baldrick33]

You only have to connect the controllers once, and choose your settings.

The reason for having the WMR tab is so that people don't have to mess with that settings file which isn't exactly user friendly with it's location etc.

The new tab in SteamVR dashboard has lots of useful aspects.

I found I hadn't even paired my controllers with my replacement Reverb.

 

Anyway, I tried what you said. Put the default.vrsettings back to default (reprojection disabled) and used the SteamVR dashboard to change it to auto and...

 

...it worked!

 

So no need to edit the file at all, so don't go listening to people who say you do :)

 

Thanks imacken, for explaining this and your patience!

[imacken]

No problem at all. It’s very confusing!

[Rogue Trooper]

Yes it is.

But slowly it is getting simpler and more reliable.

 

I guess that is life on the cutting edge.

[Baldrick33]

I am so old school I found it easier to find and edit a text file than work out how these new fangled controllers work :)

[arturojgt]

Hi. Can anyone help me? I have a reverb and sometimes I can’t move the head side to side or back to front, the reverb loose those axis, any thought?

 

Thank you.

 

 

Dream Commodore 64C, 1530 datasette, 1541 floppy disk drive, DCS cartridge, competition pro joystick, 14” Tv with VCR.

[speed-of-heat]

There are four potential reasons:

 

- poor lighting, add more light

- flat environment, add contrasting colour

- changed lighting or environment, reset the boundary in wmr

- not correctly 'zeroing' the headset, put it on and do the moves before you launch the game

 

It could be hardware failure, but, thays very unlikely

[arturojgt]

There are four potential reasons:

 

- poor lighting, add more light

- flat environment, add contrasting colour

- changed lighting or environment, reset the boundary in wmr

- not correctly 'zeroing' the headset, put it on and do the moves before you launch the game

 

It could be hardware failure, but, thays very unlikely

 

 

 

Thank you.

 

 

Dream Commodore 64C, 1530 datasette, 1541 floppy disk drive, DCS cartridge, competition pro joystick, 14” Tv with VCR.