Magot Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) In 2.5.2 beta DCS , simple mission in editor: Persian Gulf, put anywhere LHA Tarawa and AI AV8BII in takeoff position (start from runaway). The wheels spin, but plane do NOT takeoff. This is critical bug. Still stay in this position and a bit levitate as you can see on screen Included mission file.Persian Gulf Tarawa AI AV8BII.miz Edited May 26, 2018 by Magot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magot Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Confirmed this bug. Same mission, same situation in stable version DCS 2.5.0 do it corret takeoff on map Causcaus. And Harrier DO NOT levitate like in beta 2.5.1. but whole plane is correct on the deck and wheel touch the deck. Please fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 +1 issues with carrier and AI for a long time now. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gierasimov Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 NTTR - Nellis, AI Harrier taxi to the runway and stay there forever. Intel i7-13700KF :: ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 :: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quax456 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Confirmed this bug. Same mission, same situation in stable version DCS 2.5.0 do it corret takeoff on map Causcaus. And Harrier DO NOT levitate like in beta 2.5.1. but whole plane is correct on the deck and wheel touch the deck. Please fix it. Can confirm this. This was a problem at the begining of the AV8B. Seems it is back.... :cry: My Rig: Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-13700k@5.4GHz, 64GB DDR5 5200 RAM, Gigabyte Z790 AORUS Elite AX, 1TB Samsung EVO 970, RTX4080, Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG + Saitek Pro Flight Pedals, LG 32" 4K 60FPS, ACER 30" 4K 60FPS GSync Display, HP Reverb G2 V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritech Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 +1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Alis Aquilae Aut Pax Aut Bellum" Veritech's DCS YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magot Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 why this CRITICAL bug was not fixed in current patch?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timber3000 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 NTTR - Nellis, AI Harrier taxi to the runway and stay there forever.Same goes in the PG map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGas Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 why this CRITICAL bug was not fixed in current patch?? This game stopping bug, is present since day one! It is in the hand from ED, to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 It does not make sense to fix the carrier related stuff, especially, as long as ED is updating and adding new features. Take off for AI is likely intertwined with land/carrier/hover general AI. Here is a quick note from prowler, where he pointed that out: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3514757&postcount=3 Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTSAG Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Hi Magot, AI aircraft behaviour falls under the remit of ED to resolve and there are a number of problems with the AV-8B at the moment (from an AI perspective). Hence my post here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=207222 which is now not just related to ground starts but ship based ones too. Also an AI AV-8B will now take off from the TARAWA (latest Open Beta version) if you set it in the Mission Editor to a "Takeoff from ramp". All ship based spawns result in a hot start and even if you wanted to make it a cold start by setting it as "UNCONTROLLED" and then using the AI Push Task trigger....... I have found it results in some weird behaviour so thats not presently an option. I hope this helps. Cheers :thumbup: Callsign: NAKED My YouTube Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magot Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) Hi Magot, Also an AI AV-8B will now take off from the TARAWA (latest Open Beta version) if you set it in the Mission Editor to a "Takeoff from ramp". Do NOT work at latest beta version. I set Persian Gulf map, floating LHA Tarawa and harrier Takeoff from ramp. And nothing. Same problem, harrier levitate and stay, no move anyway. Btw and start UH-1 from LHA cause crash to desktop .. But from ground airfield is all ok. Takeoff correct. Edited June 10, 2018 by Magot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norsegunar Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Just Tested it out on the PG map and I was able to have a AI Harrier take off from the Tarawa. No weapons and 60% fuel. So it was about 19000 lbs. Track is attached. One of the things to check is to make sure your AI Harriers are below the max VSTOL weights. If I remember correctly from Zeus or CptSmiley, that if the AI is above that weight it won't take off. It's not like human player who can fudge the weight.AV-8B AI Takeoff LHA-1.trk Specs: It's a computer...it runs DCS.... Audentes Fortuna Juvat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunterlund21 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 got the weight issue worked out. I think the big problem is the AI want to take off vertically instead of a rolling start. The rolling starts allow for more weight to be on board. If Im not mistaken. I was in Art of the Kill D#@ it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magot Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) Just Tested it out on the PG map and I was able to have a AI Harrier take off from the Tarawa. No weapons and 60% fuel. So it was about 19000 lbs. Track is attached. One of the things to check is to make sure your AI Harriers are below the max VSTOL weights. If I remember correctly from Zeus or CptSmiley, that if the AI is above that weight it won't take off. It's not like human player who can fudge the weight. I tried same harrier on same configuration on ground airfield. There takeoff no problem all is ok. VTOL. When is in same configuration - empty, 50% fuel do not takeoff from Tarawa. And have any incorrect position that a bit levitate in air. Wheels are not on deck. - Included track. (empty harrier + 25% fuel) And same configuration harrier on LHA Tarawa on Causcaus map - STABLE DCS 2.5.0 - harrier do it takeoff on Tarawa. All is ok. Problem is only in this beta 2.5.2. - its bugged. @Norsegunar In your track is all correct and wheels have on the deck. Problem on my side is propably in strange thing that harrier levitate. Something is wrong. Please can you send me miz file? I tried too repair this beta version and still same problem ..wrong takeoff AI harrier from LHA Tarawa.trk Edited June 10, 2018 by Magot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magot Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 and looks like that problem is only with LHA Tarawa. VTOL from USS J.C Stennis is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magot Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 I tried clear install DCS 2.5.2 BETA and no luck. Harrier DO NOT takeoff from LHA Tarawa anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Wait for ED to finish the Carrier Ops implementation, then Razabma to integrate it into the Tarawa, then we should be fine. It's a beta for a reason. Things like these are to be expected during early access. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdutchy Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 When i place AI av8b on the runway they seem to taxi almost to the end of the runway before they take off. 1TB Samsung evo 860 ssd MSI Z490 Intel® Core I9-10900F 32GB RAM MSI Geforce GTX 970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leader Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Anyone got this problem in the latest version of dcs 2.7 OB? Literally exactly the same problem has reared it’s head for me in the past week or so… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_01 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Same here... AI Harriers would not take off frome the Tarawa. They taxi from Parking to the Runway. Then they just sit there. And I can see they have wheel chocks on. Intel Core i7 7700, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Intel 660P PCIe NVMe, Zotac 2070 Super Amp, Oculus Rift S A-10C, FA-18C, F-14B, FC3, F-5E, F-86, AV8B, M-2000, Combined Arms, AJS37, F-16C, C-101, MiG-15Bis, MiG-19P, MiG-21Bis, L-39, P-51D, Spitfire LFMkIX, Bf-109, Fw-190 Dora, Fw-190 Anton, P-47D, I-16, SA342, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Ka-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMotor Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 This has been fixed by ED internally and is scheduled for next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heli Shed Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 same here Come pay us a visit on YouTube - search for HELI SHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Carrera Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Hi All, I am using the latest version as of this time 2.7.9.18080, I have placed 4 Harriers on a Tarawa, set to take off from Runway. When the mission launches, the lead aircraft, looks like he is going to go vertical, then 30 seconds or so in, Wheel Chocks get placed, and he switches to rolling start take off, and you can see that he is throttling up, and for about 5 to 10s he sits there not moving, the chocks disappear and he is off Then the other, tried only 1, 2 & 3 units, just sit there and do nothing. I have tried no weapons, fuel levels from 100 down to 50%, no matter what, when the mission launches, everything in paragraph 1 occurs Thanks Edited January 7, 2022 by Toni Carrera Toni Carrera (Ice Rhino) ThrustMaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle & A10C Stick, ThrustMaster F/A-18C Stick, ThrustMaster TFRP Pedals, ThrustMaster Cougars x 2, fitted to CubeSim USB Screens, TrackIR 4 Active LED & Cap Reflector, Stream Deck XL Intel® Core™ i7-5820K 12 Core Processor, 32GB RAM, 1 x 500GB SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD, 1 x 1TB SSD 4 x 4TB Western Digital Mechanical. 2 x ASUS GTX 1080's SLI, ASUS 29" Ultrawide flanked by 2 x 22" IPS Monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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