Setting up controllers

[Alphamale]

Hi, I'm in the process of setting up controllers. I have CH Fighterstick, Saitek Pro Pedals, Razor Tartarus Keypad (8 switchable keymaps with 15 buttons per map, joystick/rocker switch and paddle switch), Logitech Flight Throttle Quadrant, and TrackIR 4 so I'll be asking pretty many questions....1) The key Undesignate/Nosewheel Steer switch...does this dual function switch "unlock" targets in STT mode and/or ground targets that were locked with GMT or other AG modes? Is this what the Undesignate function means? If so, I thought you could un-designate a target or " unlock" it just by hitting the Designate button a second time after locking. So do I really need an undesignate button? Thanks, more questions to come :)

[Revelation]

1) The key Undesignate/Nosewheel Steer switch...does this dual function switch "unlock" targets in STT mode and/or ground targets that were locked with GMT or other AG modes? Is this what the Undesignate function means?

Yes

 

If so, I thought you could un-designate a target or " unlock" it just by hitting the Designate button a second time after locking.

You can, though it is not optimal. For instance when TWS is implemented you will be able to designate once to have a "soft lock" and designate a second time to hard lock a target. You will want to have an un-designate configured.

 

So do I really need an undesignate button?

Yes, it will come in handy later on.

[Alphamale]

Yes

 

You can, though it is not optimal. For instance when TWS is implemented you will be able to designate once to have a "soft lock" and designate a second time to hard lock a target. You will want to have an un-designate configured.

 

Yes, it will come in handy later on.

 

Ok yes, this is what I was thinking...I can remember from my older sims that a second press on the designate while locking a Twiz tgt would automatically put you in STT mode...is that what you're referring to? Is there or will there be also be a cycle tgts mode while in Twiz?

 

Thanks, bear with me :)

[Alphamale]

What's Throttle Finger Lift (Both) used for?

[Revelation]

Ok yes, this is what I was thinking...I can remember from my older sims that a second press on the designate while locking a Twiz tgt would automatically put you in STT mode...is that what you're referring to? Is there or will there be also be a cycle tgts mode while in Twiz?

 

Thanks, bear with me :)

Yes

 

What's Throttle Finger Lift (Both) used for?

This is to force the throttles into afterburner. Usually there is a simple "push through" but when you are on the carrier I believe you have to lift them to get them into afterburner.

[Alphamale]

Yes

 

This is to force the throttles into afterburner. Usually there is a simple "push through" but when you are on the carrier I believe you have to lift them to get them into afterburner.

 

Nope, my quadrant's three sliders (levers) have no AB detent, just 100% mil at the top and when levers are placed there (at least the two that I have set up for thrust), the engines hit burners after about a second or two...to just get 100 mil I actually have to bring them down to about 75-80%. These levers do have an IDLE detent which I have set as such and this allows me to go through cold start up ops. I have no problems launching

[Revelation]

Nope, my quadrant's three sliders (levers) have no AB detent, just 100% mil at the top and when levers are placed there (at least the two that I have set up for thrust), the engines hit burners after about a second or two...to just get 100 mil I actually have to bring them down to about 75-80%. These levers do have an IDLE detent which I have set as such and this allows me to go through cold start up ops. I have no problems launching

 

I was referring to the real aircraft. Most consumer throttles do not have an AB detent.

[Alphamale]

BTW, that reminds me, what would be a good function to assign to the remaining slider lever next to the two engine levers on the quadrant? It would have to be a function that is meant to be controlled with an axis (analog) as opposed to a function that works better as discrete steps. For example, I tried assigning radar elevation and that was a disaster...that function was better suited to a button for Elev. UP and one for Elv. DOWN...this way the position would not drift...can't assign flaps because there's only three settings for that...any other ideas?

[Alphamale]

I was referring to the real aircraft. Most consumer throttles do not have an AB detent.

 

My very old TM quadrant had it...but those periphs had to be plugged into parallel ports not USBs

[Alphamale]

My gun trigger is only single stage and I have GUN SECOND DETENT assigned to it...but I find that my A2A missiles are also using it...I thought "Weapon Release" would take care of all weapons besides the gun...why are missiles firing thru my gun trigger?

[Alphamale]

What is the difference between "ATC Engage/Disengage switch" and "Autopilot/Nosewheel steering Disengage" switch?

[BSS_Sniper]

At this point you need to read the manual and watch videos.

[dburne]

My gun trigger is only single stage and I have GUN SECOND DETENT assigned to it...but I find that my A2A missiles are also using it...I thought "Weapon Release" would take care of all weapons besides the gun...why are missiles firing thru my gun trigger?

 

I believe A2A missiles are fired through the gun trigger rather than weapon release by design.

[WeakLink]

Revelation, correct me if I am wrong but Alphamale asked what the finger lift on throttles is for I thought they were to prevent the throttles from going to Idle by accident during low power operations not a AB warning guide.

[Fri13]

Revelation, correct me if I am wrong but Alphamale asked what the finger lift on throttles is for I thought they were to prevent the throttles from going to Idle by accident during low power operations not a AB warning guide.

 

If I have correctly understood, they are there as well to disallow afterburners as well about the idle.

 

You can override this in options > special > F/A-18C and disabling the "Afterburner detent" if you want the classical use where you can push throttle fully in and you get relight without unlocking relight range first.