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I have indeed, and usually always run in fullscreen. Doesn't matter if I have the mouse confined to game window enable or not either.

 

Let me describe in further detail. When you are on the hangar screen, the game cursor is confined to the gui window(mission, settings, modules, etc.). No matter how much you move the mouse, the game cursor is bound within that window, regardless of the above settings I mentioned. I always use the confined to game window setting, because otherwise it is possible to accidentally click on an icon on the taskbar.

 

Now as well, when flying, the cursor(blue cross) is still confined to that same area, although it is invisible. You can see that area if you call up the pause screen. It is the same area as the gui window in the hangar.

 

I don't know if there is a way to get the cursor to reach outside this "box" and go from screen edge to edge. Otherwise, in order to reach a control in the cockpit, it must be within the area of this box.

 

Hope that makes sense.

 

You definitely should have that "confine mouse cursor to game window" checked, but as I've found a couple of times, it still manages to jump outside the window and I end up inadvertently clicking on something in Windows. So, as you're moving your head in VR, and look down to say, arm the ejection seat, your pointer turns green, but when you click, nothing happens. Then you take the headset off to look at your screen and all is normal, except for when you say "Oh, oops, I forgot to use Alt-Enter to expand the VR window across the whole screen" and hit Alt-Enter, then some Windows settings menu keeps popping up. Its only after you click somewhere near center view in VR that mouse control returns to the game, and now you can hit Alt-Enter. For me, having the VR Window completely expanded makes it so its not possible for the cursor to click outside the game. Even with "confine to game window" enabled, it will still jump outside it sometimes just long enough to take the focus of the mouse click out of the game.

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Well..I think most of us know voice recognition but can't use it.

As you know(?)..some of us are not English talking chaps..:D.

 

I have bought Vaicompro..but..my language is Finnish and I have never been good in English so Vaicom won't understand what I'm saying.

 

I like the idea to talk to game but...can't..

 

Buy VoiceAttack, it uses Windows voice recognition which does speak Finnish.

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You definitely should have that "confine mouse cursor to game window" checked, but as I've found a couple of times, it still manages to jump outside the window and I end up inadvertently clicking on something in Windows. So, as you're moving your head in VR, and look down to say, arm the ejection seat, your pointer turns green, but when you click, nothing happens. Then you take the headset off to look at your screen and all is normal, except for when you say "Oh, oops, I forgot to use Alt-Enter to expand the VR window across the whole screen" and hit Alt-Enter, then some Windows settings menu keeps popping up. Its only after you click somewhere near center view in VR that mouse control returns to the game, and now you can hit Alt-Enter. For me, having the VR Window completely expanded makes it so its not possible for the cursor to click outside the game. Even with "confine to game window" enabled, it will still jump outside it sometimes just long enough to take the focus of the mouse click out of the game.

 

Move the task bar to the right vertical and you will never have a mouse problem. You move the bar back for normal windows use.

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You definitely should have that "confine mouse cursor to game window" checked, but as I've found a couple of times, it still manages to jump outside the window and I end up inadvertently clicking on something in Windows. So, as you're moving your head in VR, and look down to say, arm the ejection seat, your pointer turns green, but when you click, nothing happens. Then you take the headset off to look at your screen and all is normal, except for when you say "Oh, oops, I forgot to use Alt-Enter to expand the VR window across the whole screen" and hit Alt-Enter, then some Windows settings menu keeps popping up. Its only after you click somewhere near center view in VR that mouse control returns to the game, and now you can hit Alt-Enter. For me, having the VR Window completely expanded makes it so its not possible for the cursor to click outside the game. Even with "confine to game window" enabled, it will still jump outside it sometimes just long enough to take the focus of the mouse click out of the game.

 

Yes, alt-enter is the only way to ensure not hitting any windows taskbar icons or anything else, and the DCS window has to have focus in order to be able to interact with anything in-game.

 

To that end, the "confine mouse cursor to game window" setting doesn't really do anything useful IMO. The game cursor is still bound to the gui box, but cannot travel outside the desktop mirrored window...except that it can at the bottom where the taskbar is.

 

I'd like for someone to tell me that they are somehow able to move and see the game cursor outside the gui area. Here's a crude drawing of what's happening.

 

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This is static framing regardless of where you are looking around the cockpit. If you can imagine that you're looking down and to the left where the radio stack is, as far as I could physically tilt my head down, a radio knob might(and does) fall outside the "area of mouse cursor". The cursor would hit that invisible edge and not be able to reach the knob.

 

So the only option would be to reposition myself in the real world in order to get the knob to fall within the cursor area.

 

I don't know for what possible reason the mouse cursor should be confined to that small area instead of reaching from screen edge to edge.

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The drawing definitely helped me to understand the problem you're seeing. I was thinking you were having the same kinds of issues I've had a couple of times. That is definitely a weird one. Unfortunately, I don't have any helpful input for that one, other than to say that if its in my field of view, I can click on it. There doesn't appear to be any invisible barrier in my setup. Manipulating that #2 VHF requires me to move the cursor almost to the edge of my field of view, so I'm not seeing the restrictions that you're seeing.

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Move the task bar to the right vertical and you will never have a mouse problem. You move the bar back for normal windows use.

 

Thanks for the tip, but Alt-Enter works just fine for me, and I don't have to change where my taskbar is. :)

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The drawing definitely helped me to understand the problem you're seeing. I was thinking you were having the same kinds of issues I've had a couple of times. That is definitely a weird one. Unfortunately, I don't have any helpful input for that one, other than to say that if its in my field of view, I can click on it. There doesn't appear to be any invisible barrier in my setup. Manipulating that #2 VHF requires me to move the cursor almost to the edge of my field of view, so I'm not seeing the restrictions that you're seeing.

 

I wonder if it's because you're using a Rift instead of Vive. Do you get full range while in hangar view too, or is it just in the cockpit?

 

At least knowing that it works different for you tells me that maybe there is something I could change on my end. Maybe I'll have to try a complete fresh install, although I did one when I built this PC for VR.

 

Thanks for the feedback.

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I wonder if it's because you're using a Rift instead of Vive. Do you get full range while in hangar view too, or is it just in the cockpit?

 

At least knowing that it works different for you tells me that maybe there is something I could change on my end. Maybe I'll have to try a complete fresh install, although I did one when I built this PC for VR.

 

Thanks for the feedback.

 

That might be it. In the hangar view, its the same way. If I can see it, I can click it.

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