oho Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 How does SAM sites react on HARM attacs? Do they shut down automatically or move a little like in the MOOSE script? If yes, do average skill units not react at all? Can you give us some insight? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowbagger Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Has anyone figured out if it's possible to run Liberation on a network pc which does not have DCS installed on it? I have edited the paths in the preferences file, but it still hangs on start up with <can't find DCS installation> (or something to that effect). Cheers CPU:5600X | GPU:RTX2080 | RAM:32GB | Disk:860EVOm.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFX Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) I know that I already posted these ideas over to DISCORD but I figured I wanted to revitalize this thread, so here are my thoughts on how to tweak some parameters for immersion and variety of weather and lighting in Liberation missions: A COUPLE OF IDEAS TO DIVERSIFY THE AMBIANCE I have been thinking about something that seemed really important (to me at least): how to make all those missions feel diverse and immersive, visually… I must say that the weather and the lighting is certainly one of the most important aspect of immersion (for me)… (By the way, I am a private pilot in RL and I realized once that it is really funny how we search for the best time of day and best weather for our taste in our simulators and how much those are two variables in real life flight which cannot be chosen at all…). Anyhow, since we CAN change these in DCS, I found (thanks to Mustang) that we can change the time of day, date or weather when we get into a (Liberation) mission and it doesn’t change anything in the end result since Liberation engine only records kills… so why not use this for better immersion. I was a bit sick of repeated 08:00 and 12:00 noon flights over deserted terrain… I want to share here with my fellow Liberation simmers my findings (I have been fiddling with dates and times a bit)… I wanted to have a real Nordic kind of feeling, a campaign where Russians fight us in the mountains, at sea or down in the snowy valleys… I also wanted to find the best times for sunrise, sunset, full moons, etc… in order to get a better immersion and variety… First thing, I am sure you all know, there is no winter textures in any other theater than Caucasus, period… And to get them you need to set the date at an appropriate wintery month, which means the sunset and sunrise will be at different times than, say, June 1st default… Here is a list of factors that could be tweaked at mission start (in DCS), that don’t affect Liberation engine at all, and that can provide some variety and immersion: -Date : change the date for example, for February 1st in Caucasus (I know you all know that) and you get white fields and mountains… Date will affect the phases of the moon as well (I found that the phases of the moon correspond pretty well with universal tools on the internet, real moon phases, so you can choose the year you want in combination with the month and date to get moon phases that you like… full moon, pitch black no moon, etc…). -Start Time : whatever you have in the Liberation software, you can change before starting the real mission in DCS and it wont affect Liberation in any way… therefore, a suitable time with a sunrise, or a mission time that has a sunset an hour later than mission start can be very nice! -New DCS clouds : of course, you can choose whatever you like, that will alter dramatically the gameplay of a mission (and together with the sunrise or time of day, it will make a combination of lighting effects that can be really beautiful!). Oh, and not mentioning that you can correct some horrible weather that Liberation is always throwing at us (with overcast and rain all the way down to the deck…) -New DCS clouds’ height! : this is another factor that is VERY important for ambiance… a BROKEN layer of clouds near the ground will block the sunrays but a high layer (BKN130 for example) will have the sunset shine underneath… -Localized precipitation: since DCS’s new clouds we have localized precipitation! If you choose the preset OVERCAST + RAIN 1, you will get some areas where it rains under the clouds and some other areas where it is clear…. -Temperature… if you set the temperature slider to +10 degrees C. you will get some rain for sure… if you set it to +5 (only in the Caucasus), you will get rain with a little bit of snow… (at least in February). If you set it to 0 degrees C. you will get more snow with a bit of rain, and if you set it to minus 5 degrees C. or lower, you will get only snow!!! Those subtilties can change your environment… -Wind speed and direction (at ground level): if you set a wintery date (in Caucasus only) with a below zero temperature and a clouds preset to OVERCAST+RAIN 1 for example, adding some wind will make the snowflake travel horizontally across your canopy rather than falling down vertically… any combination of the above will lead to different results… Here is an example of some settings that I used to make an immersive wintery campaign (Sorry I am a northerner… from Montréal… I love snow and mountains…): after a lot of experimenting I found the following timings (they don’t concord exactly with RL data but I believe DCS doesn’t take into account DL Savings for example…) : In the CAUCASUS, at GROUND LEVEL, on FEBRUARY 1st , 1999 -the legal sunrise (Dusk) is at about 08:00 -actual sunrise is at about 08:45 -actual sunset is about 18:15 -Legal sunset (Dawn) 18:50 -Moon rise (full moon) 19:40 -Moon set 09:00 With this info, imagine the beautiful scenarios one can make with mission timings… As an example, on that precise day (Feb. 1st, 1999), I tried flying in a southerly direction at 27000’ at 08:30 with a BROKEN4 preset (@max height of 13780’) over the Black Sea, close to the mountainous coast.. I had the full moon sailing above the clouds on my right hand canopy bow, ready to set, and a very red sunrise under the clouds on my left side… so beautiful… Enjoy! JEFX Edited May 18, 2021 by JEFX 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] In DCS I fly jets with thousands of pounds of thrust... In real life I fly a humble Cessna Hawx XP II with 210 HP :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sérvalpilot Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Hey, Why was support for the Rafale mod removed? Is it because of a technical issue or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_DK Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) Me and a couple of friends have been flying a 2.5.1 Campaign and can't get our troops to take the "Golan North" base in the "Syrian - Battle for Golan Heights - Lite", even though the last three missions has been around the front attacking everything. Our mission before this one: https://www.twins4ever.dk/files/DCS/Liberation251Campaign.zip had us doing an Alpha strike on the front and our units from "Golan South" had "ELIMINATION" orders. Every RED unit was destroyed and our forces was parked close to "the base" which consist of 4 heli pads, command center, 2 garages and 3 Barracks 2 but the base does not change hands to our side... The above zip file contains our campaign save and the last mission generated and flown by us. Any suggestions? Edited May 25, 2021 by Cougar_DK spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikas62 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) On 5/25/2021 at 10:06 PM, Cougar_DK said: Me and a couple of friends have been flying a 2.5.1 Campaign and can't get our troops to take the "Golan North" base in the "Syrian - Battle for Golan Heights - Lite", even though the last three missions has been around the front attacking everything. Our mission before this one: https://www.twins4ever.dk/files/DCS/Liberation251Campaign.zip had us doing an Alpha strike on the front and our units from "Golan South" had "ELIMINATION" orders. Every RED unit was destroyed and our forces was parked close to "the base" which consist of 4 heli pads, command center, 2 garages and 3 Barracks 2 but the base does not change hands to our side... The above zip file contains our campaign save and the last mission generated and flown by us. Any suggestions? We have exactly the same issue. Edited May 28, 2021 by Pikas62 _________________ PC: Win 10 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 64GB RAM, GForce RTX 4090. Cockpit & HOTAS: VKB Gunfighter MKIII with MCG PRO, Vipril MT-50 CM2, Virpil Rotor Plus & SharKa-50 grip, Thrustmaster TPR, Virpil SharKa-50 Control Panel, WinWing Phoenix MIP, WinWing PTO & PCR, Total Control Apachte MPD frames, several DIY panels, NLR GTTRACK, NLR Motion V3, ButtKicker Gamer PLUS VR: Varjo Aero, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgboy Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I've just installed v2.5.1, and the option picklists are too large for me to select, thus unusable. I have checkboxes, and they work fine. The help text is also unusually large. Anybody had this before and can explain how I resolve this problem? I've rebooted and tried different scaling, with no luck. Thanks in advance...I'm looking forward to using this. db The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. ============================= Intel Core i7 5930K 3.5GHz, 32Gb RAM// Radeon RX Vega // SSD only // VKB STECS Mini Plus Throttle / TM Warthog FCS / Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals / Physical Cockpit // TrackIR or VR (HP R-G2)// Win10Pro 64bit // Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnoog Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Am 24.5.2021 um 17:18 schrieb Malakhit: I don't believe the Rafale mod has yet been updated for 2.7, looking at their forum thread. Rafale was recently updated for 2.7. Created a small script to make Step 1 of the wiki (extracting plane and weapon data) easier https://github.com/schnoog/dcs-liberation-PlaneExportScript Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidGad Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 any word on the Hind being added? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaCH Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I tried to add the Hind as a unit but is not available in the pydcs. Any idea how to add it manually?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidGad Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 5 hours ago, NaCH said: I tried to add the Hind as a unit but is not available in the pydcs. Any idea how to add it manually?? you can't really. for now, just add some Mi-8's in and in the mission editor switch it to an Mi-24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDEYE_CVW-66 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Just started experimenting with this. For some reason, moving ground unit "glow" with the same lighting effect as a burning vehicle (Except there is no fire- only the low). Is this an option from the campaign (To make units easier to spot?) or is it a DCS bug in the current OB build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) Anybody have or see an issue where the Main Map in the Liberation GUI is just blank white? same happened to me with 3.0 so I stayed with 2.x, but now 4.0 is having that same problem. Works fine when I try it in a VM I have on the same PC though. Very odd. EDIT:- For others who might encounter this..... Maptiles are loaded from the internet now in v3.0 onward. "Its Always DNS" Simply Toggling my DNS ad-filter (Pi-Hole) brought it to life, can't find what it was actually blocking, but it 's working now regardless. (Thanks to Malakhit for the hint.) Nate Edited June 27, 2021 by Nate--IRL-- 1 Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroLanc Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Why are the older campaigns like 'Iranian Invasion' and 'Inherent Resolve' not available in 4.0? The 4.0 included campaigns lack a lot of variety - especially for the Persian Gulf, they seem to pack enemy air assets into a small area.... Iran just spams F-14's and with the current AI tactics, it's neither fun nor authentic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrrregat Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Hi Team, Someone asked about it before but i couldn't find any answer so far. Is it possible to include Airboss script? https://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE_DOCS_DEVELOP/Documentation/Ops.Airboss.html Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataribaby Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) Great update! Especially with Hind and Syria insurgent scenario. Thanks a lot for v4.0. Please will be possible to make helicopter flight planner to not set waypoint height as 20000ft and set it to some lower alt above terrain level so helis will copy terrain? 20000ft is bit much I think. Edited July 2, 2021 by ataribaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 My DCS doesnt see .liberation files? before it was .miz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeSPIKE Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Furiz said: My DCS doesnt see .liberation files? before it was .miz DCS does not need to see the .liberation file. That is for the Liberation engine. The mission file that Liberation creates is still a .miz file, which should be in your Missions folder. Unless you changed something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, VeeSPIKE said: DCS does not need to see the .liberation file. That is for the Liberation engine. The mission file that Liberation creates is still a .miz file, which should be in your Missions folder. Unless you changed something. Ah yea you are right, haven't played liberation since 2.3 version thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidGad Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 How do you guys usually handle mission completion in big campaigns. was trying that campaign where you're the US trying to capture Cyprus from the Russians. 10+ packages planned by the AI. i flew my mission and made it back to the carrier, but 70% of the packages have yet to even get started yet. wondering if i should just leave the mission running for an hour or so to let them all finish?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalvole Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Last time I played the utterly fantastic Liberation was in Dec 2020. I tried 4.00 last night and I couldn’t get the Culling option to work. I set it to 100, 150, and 200 miles but each time the whole map was populated. It used to work like a charm, has something changed? Any help would be greatly appreciated as at the moment it’s unplayable and makes my CPU cry hot fiery tears. it was one of the Syrian Campaigns if that makes any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonstory44 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just dipping my toes into the liberation waters. Two quick things I am hung up on. How can I change my AI SEAD package target waypoint to not be 0 AGL? I can’t seem to edit the waypoint or I’m missing something. Also they roll in and never launch any harms. Therefore they end up being quite useless. I must be missing something. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jason Win 10 Pro, Intel i9 9900k overclocked to 5.1 (water cooled), 64 gb Corsair Dominator platinum RAM (3444 MHz) Titan RTX overclocked and water cooled 1.1 TB SSD 2 TB M.2 SSD TM Warthog Stick and throttle MFG Crosswinds Reverb VR Buttkicker LFE, SimShaker, Jetseat. All DCS modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbarba Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 8:19 PM, schnoog said: Rafale was recently updated for 2.7. Created a small script to make Step 1 of the wiki (extracting plane and weapon data) easier https://github.com/schnoog/dcs-liberation-PlaneExportScript Rafale Mod still not in 4.0.0 Liberation? How can I have it there, can i just add French Pack to faction file from previous Liberation version? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furia Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Is there any possibility of having the excellent Mod of the L-61 and its F-100 naval escorts included? The mod not only includes the Spanish and Australian versions of thos ships but but aditionally some additional LPD ship This would allow us to operate Harriers and helicopters not only from the LHA but also from the L61 This is a ver high quality Mod one of the best naval mods available in DCS. It could be downloaded here and it would be a great alternative for the LHA Thanks Edited July 31, 2021 by Furia [sIGPIC]http://menorca.infotelecom.es/~raulurbina/ESA/banner_furia.png[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalvole Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I don’t know if the people who make this mod keep an eye on this thread, but in the hope that they do; First off, thank you very much for all your hard work. Liberation is brilliant. is there anything that can be done about Culling Exclusion Zones around enemy airbases? Such as maybe independent zone sizing? I ask because at the moment it seems to be quite drastically reducing the effectiveness of culling when the enemy has aircraft at multiple airfields. For example, there awacs will be right at the other end of the map, but still have a whole lot of units spawn around it. Liberation seems to be a lot more resource hungry these days, so I need all the culling help I can get. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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